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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The only original reference for the ability to vote in federal elections was the same as used by each for State elected offices...
    And your point?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Which means that there is a right to vote.

    You said the opposite

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061548061


    what i said:

    the voting rights act is federal law, you can challenge federal law.

    the constitution, provides NO right to vote.......its states you cannot be denied the vote, for certain reasons.

    and it also states voting can be taken away



    voting rights act is federal ...not constitutional.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the 15th you quoted speaks of ------->slaves...but does not create a right. government cannot create a right, only a privilege, and voting is a privldge which can be taken away.. by the 14th amendment.
    Wrong again

    The 15th doesn't use the word "slaves" and does mention several other qualities

    And again, the constitution doesn't create rights
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No one controls people, but the constitution does say that the govt can limit rights (ex the 15th amend)

    oh really, a man is going to prison.....is he controlled?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what i said:






    voting rights act is federal ...not constitutional.
    There is no such thing as a "federal right"

    Where does the constitution say that the govt has the power to regulate or even ban abortion?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And your point?
    You're not the brightest bulb in the pack, are you?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh really, a man is going to prison.....is he controlled?
    No, he is not controlled, but his rights and his choices are limited by the govt

    Where does the constitution say that the govt has the power to regulate or ban abortion?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is no such thing as a "federal right"

    Where does the constitution say that the govt has the power to regulate or even ban abortion?
    Yet you keep attempting to state voting is a right...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, he is not controlled, but his rights and his choices are limited by the govt

    Where does the constitution say that the govt has the power to regulate or ban abortion?
    It doesn't, and it shouldn't. Those decisions were meant to be left to the States...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong again

    The 15th doesn't use the word "slaves" and does mention several other qualities

    And again, the constitution doesn't create rights
    15th

    Section 1.
    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on -->account of (race, color), or------------------> previous condition of servitude--

    this amendment is a (reconstruction amendment), written for the slave population after the civil war.

    13th frees them
    14th makes them citizens, gives them due process, and privileges and immunities.
    15th say they cannot be denied the vote, because of their color race or past slavery.

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