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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    thanks but actually i just meant pro-choice with restrictions

    why do you think they are light? especially since i haven't really gone into detail, id just call them restrictions.
    It comes off as "I'll give them nearly 6 months to figure out they're pregnant and to abort the baby, and after that...well, I could probably see letting more happen, whatever" more than any form of stringent oversight or restriction.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    1.)So there are statistics on this then, care to share them?



    Couldn't this argument cut both ways?
    1.) yeah they have been posted before, well, when a woman commonly finds out has been posted before NOT how many woman dont find out until they go into labor LMAO
    when i feel like looking ill see if i can find them

    2.) not sure if i understand what you are saying, are you saying that banning abortion doesnt force a woman to care for her child because she could give it up?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It comes off as "I'll give them nearly 6 months to figure out they're pregnant and to abort the baby, and after that...well, I could probably see letting more happen, whatever" more than any form of stringent oversight or restriction.

    oh thats how it comes off to you? seems you have a good imagination since again i didnt go into detail

    like i said im fine with a soft ban at 21/22 weeks since that viability and then case by case.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The "trimester" structure is no longer good law. It was updated in Casey on a test of "viability."
    The limit of viability ( meaning 50 percent will survive ) is 24 weeks gestation.
    It has remained unchanged for the last 12 years.
    No fetus less than 21 weeks and some days has ever survived. Experts say no fetus younger than 21 weeks will ever survive even with medical help as their lungs are not developed enough.

    Roe vs Wade set viability between 24 weeks and 28 weeks gestation.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    The limit of viability ( meaning 50 percent will survive ) is 24 weeks gestation.
    It has remained unchanged for the last 12 years.
    No fetus less than 21 weeks and some days has survived. Experts say no fetus younger than 21 weeks will ever survive even with medical help as their lungs are not developed enough.

    Roe vs Wade set viability between 24 weeks and 28 weeks gestation.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    why would i kid about facts
    Because only an idiot would not realize she was pregnant in 3 months

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Keep in mind that for some period of time you might not even be aware of the pregnancy.
    Yeah - I know . . . that's how it was for me for two of my kids.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Because only an idiot would not realize she was pregnant in 3 months
    well you are factually wrong

    many woman have a very light period or no period at all on BC so some times when it fails theres no reason to suspect they are pregnant until something more than spotting or not having a period.

    Sorry, facts dont change simply because you dont like them
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    oh thats how it comes off to you? seems you have a good imagination since again i didnt go into detail

    like i said im fine with a soft ban at 21/22 weeks since that viability and then case by case.
    So 5.5 months and then likely more after that, but not exactly guaranteed.

    It's pretty much as I said before. And yes it's without you going into details, and maybe those details would show you aren't quite as flippant as your overview statements make you seem to be.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    1.) yeah they have been posted before, well, when a woman commonly finds out has been posted before NOT how many woman dont find out until they go into labor LMAO
    when i feel like looking ill see if i can find them
    Yeah, it would be great if you backed up what you are saying with actual numbers and studies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    2.) not sure if i understand what you are saying, are you saying that banning abortion doesnt force a woman to care for her child because she could give it up?
    It very well could be used in that light.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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