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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
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    You own your property. You just can't do whatever you want with it.

    why? not!

    i have stated over and over , can i do what i want with my property .......IF i DO NOT violate the rights of another person? ...(adding).....or violate criminal law.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why? not!
    Because it is against Federal Law.

    i have stated over and over , can i do what i want with my property .......IF i DO NOT violate the rights of another person? ...(adding).....or violate criminal law.
    Because we live in a society that in addition to laws, we also have regulations that govern what you do to, or on your own property. This is a direct result of people electing people whom believe it is their job to continually pass laws, and regs, rather than adhering to their oath to protect, and defend the constitution.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

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    thos people arent idiots at all LMAO
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But with the rapid increases in medical knowledge, if viability is the issue, then the State may have the right, with professional input, to put a time limit on when an abortion might take place.
    But you forgetting the limit of viability has not changed in the last 12 years even with rapid increases of medical knowledge.
    Experts agree that no fetus younger than 21 weeks will ever be viable The lungs are not formed enough to survive outside a womb. As the wiki article posted the youngest surviving baby was 21 weeks and 6 days gestation.

    Also even premies that are 24 weeks gestation have a high percentage of major disabilities.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Because it is against Federal Law.
    (play on words here) so federal law, supersedes the 5th amendment, which means i am not secure in my property, because government can pass a federal law, which controls all i own-----> including my body?

    so government is the great decider of rights, instead of its job of securing rights.



    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Because we live in a society that in addition to laws, we also have regulations that govern what you do to, or on your own property. This is a direct result of people electing people whom believe it is their job to continually pass laws, and regs, rather than adhering to their oath to protect, and defend the constitution.
    goods answer!

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    But you forgetting the limit of viability has not changed in the last 12 years even with rapid increases of medical knowledge.
    Experts agree that no fetus younger than 21 weeks will ever be viable The lungs are not formed enough to survive outside a womb. As the wiki article posted the youngest surviving baby was 21 weeks and 6 days gestation.

    Also even premies that are 24 weeks gestation have a high percentage of major disabilities.
    Indeed, making the court's promise to revisit the viability issue as the science got better a blatant lie.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    here is where i am going.

    as a person, i belong to ME, i don't belong to government( we are supposed to be free men), i have a right to be secure in my person, but i also have a right to be secure in my property...... the 5th amendment.
    You do not belong to anyone. Not even yourself.

    if a person is secure in their body, meaning government has NO authority to stop one from having an abortion, tell them what to eat or drink, then i am BEING secure in my property...me......then along with my body, THEN IT WOULD ALSO EQUATE that i am secure in material goods which are also my property.
    No, it would not, and does not, equate
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why? not!

    i have stated over and over , can i do what i want with my property .......IF i DO NOT violate the rights of another person? ...(adding).....or violate criminal law.
    No, you can not do what you want with your property. The law, including civil law, can limit what you do with your property
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    (play on words here) so federal law, supersedes the 5th amendment, which means i am not secure in my property, because government can pass a federal law, which controls all i own-----> including my body?

    so government is the great decider of rights, instead of its job of securing rights.
    Wrong again
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Indeed, making the court's promise to revisit the viability issue as the science got better a blatant lie.
    The only lie is your claim that the court promised to revisit the viability issue
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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