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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Abortions do not infringe on the rights of any other person

    never said it did.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    As often happens on the boards one bit of research, in order to have a 'viable' opinion, often leads to another.

    Perhaps some might find this interesting. The Nazis and Abortion

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    People don't have the right to do as they please with their body or their property. They cant choose to use their body (or their property) to kill other people

    But people have the right to decide which medical procedures they will consent to and which they will not.

    this is dumb!..........if you killed someone you would infringe on their right.

    stated again, with i dont control my body, my property, meaning me, or material goods, ....then you controls them, who owns me, and my property?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is dumb!..........if you killed someone you would infringe on their right.

    stated again, with i dont control my body, my property, meaning me, or material goods, ....then you controls them, who owns me, and my property?
    Please realize to whom you're responding...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your argument was based on the defenselessness of life. Chickens, cows, etc are just as alive, and just as defenseless as a fetus
    That old joke about how W.C.Fields likes children doesn't seem so funny anymore.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you have answered no, then please explain why a person, DOES NOT OWN THIS OWN PROPERTY?
    What property are you referring to?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is dumb!..........if you killed someone you would infringe on their right.

    stated again, with i dont control my body, my property, meaning me, or material goods, ....then you controls them, who owns me, and my property?
    You may not knowingly sell your gun to a felon.

    You own your property. You just can't do whatever you want with it.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That old joke about how W.C.Fields likes children doesn't seem so funny anymore.
    Which joke is that?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    who owns me, and my property?
    Progressives in charge today say that their government does.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I understand where you are going with this, however, one argument may well be that although you have a right to be secure in your person from unreasonable search, and or seizure, the moment you are talking about a separate life, as in the child growing inside you, that person has the same right to be secure.
    here is where i am going.

    as a person, i belong to ME, i don't belong to government( we are supposed to be free men), i have a right to be secure in my person, but i also have a right to be secure in my property...... the 5th amendment.

    if a person is secure in their body, meaning government has NO authority to stop one from having an abortion, tell them what to eat or drink, then i am BEING secure in my property...me......then along with my body, THEN IT WOULD ALSO EQUATE that i am secure in material goods which are also my property.

    since we have established a person...me, under the constitution is suppose to be secure , or what i own, does the government have the power, to dictate to me, what i shall do with my property, me or my goods, ...if i have NOT violated the rights of another person.

    again i stated the 5th amendment to be secure.......this is CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, we are speaking of. ------------>what law overrides constitutional law?

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