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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I support a 12 week line.

    No apologies - I am pro-choice with limits . . . 20 weeks is just too damn long. If you haven't made a decision by then what he hell have you been doing?
    i dont think so simply because of the fact many woman haven't found out until 12 weeks or longer they were pregnant that are on a BC that failed.

    What about them? Secondly for most its not an easy decision why rush it and force it, im good with it up to 22weeks since thats viability anyway, then after that it still wouldnt be a flat ban it would be case by case
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Good.

    I mean, it may be 12 weeks, or 14, or 18. But pretending that there's no matter of human life involved, even as the fetus steadily acquires human features - that is more illogical - and eventually much more immoral - than pretending that a zygote is a human being.

    This merely brings Arkansas within the civilized norm: abortion on demand is illegal after 12 weeks in Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic (yes, the godless, jolly Czech Republic), Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Italy, Poland....

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Of course they can have standards like all medical facilities. My argument is against them making dates of when it can or cannot happen...saying whether or not it can happen...that isn't something for a bureaucrat to decide.
    It all depends on when the fetus becomes a human. Most would argue that that does in fact happen before birth. Is the location the only thing that matters? Should the government have no regulations on abortion at nine months?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    It all depends on when the fetus becomes a human. Most would argue that that does in fact happen before birth. Is the location the only thing that matters? Should the government have no regulations on abortion at nine months?
    IMO location isnt the only thing that matters BUT its the most important factor obviously because that makes it an unique situation not comparable to anything else.

    Im pro-choice with restrictions but not at 12 weeks thats way to early since there have been many woman that didnt even know they were pregnant until that time
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    It all depends on when the fetus becomes a human. Most would argue that that does in fact happen before birth. Is the location the only thing that matters? Should the government have no regulations on abortion at nine months?
    The government shouldn't be involved to the extent they are....it isn't an issue for bureaucrats. They have to make broad and generalized legislation...these issues have complexities that cannot all be legislated.

    I don't think any reputable doctor would abort at Nine Months..
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    IMO location isnt the only thing that matters BUT its the most important factor obviously because that makes it an unique situation not comparable to anything else.

    I pro-life with restricitions but not at 12 weeks thats way to early since there have been many woman that didnt even know they were pregnant until that time
    My point is that regardless of our opinions on when is too early or late, most would agree that at some point there should be government regulation.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    i dont think so simply because of the fact many woman haven't found out until 12 weeks or longer they were pregnant that are on a BC that failed.

    What about them? Secondly for most its not an easy decision why rush it and force it, im good with it up to 22weeks since thats viability anyway, then after that it still wouldnt be a flat ban it would be case by case
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    The government shouldn't be involved to the extent they are....it isn't an issue for bureaucrats. They have to make broad and generalized legislation...these issues have complexities that cannot all be legislated.

    I don't think any reputable doctor would abort at Nine Months..
    If "No reputable doctor would do..." is enough, why have any medical regulations?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    i dont think so simply because of the fact many woman haven't found out until 12 weeks or longer they were pregnant that are on a BC that failed.
    What about women who don't know until they go into labor? I mean, should they be forced to care for a baby they knew nothing about?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    IMO location isnt the only thing that matters BUT its the most important factor obviously because that makes it an unique situation not comparable to anything else.

    I pro-life with restricitions but not at 12 weeks thats way to early since there have been many woman that didnt even know they were pregnant until that time
    Don't you mean pro-choice with very light restrictions?
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