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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Funnily enough, whether the law is passed in Arkansas or Colombia or China, certain biological facts remain unchanged which is why arguing about the US constitution is pretty pointless. Much like your post.
    Did you forget what you said?

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    Yes but the constitutional argument is of no interest outside the USA where abortion still happens. I am not interested in the constitution - just a mother's rights to her own body and choices.
    The US constitution is very important when discussing a US law. Abortion around the world or in Colombia or China is not what is being discussed here.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Did you forget what you said?

    The US constitution is very important when discussing a US law. Abortion around the world or in Colombia or China is not what is being discussed here.
    That doesn't change whether the US constitution has bearing on biological fact does it?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no its not an opinion

    anybody honest an educated understand the fact that the LIFE of the ZEF is meaningless to the abort procedure

    FACTS
    abortions are preformed on fetuses already dead
    surgical/medicine abortions are preformed after spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) to help ensure the womans health
    abortions are preformed and the ZEF has lived, there are even controversies over making laws that protect the living ZEF in the case and when the laws do not
    whther the ZEF is alive or dead or whether it lives or dies before, during or after has no impact on the success of the abortion

    so "fact 1" is 100% false
    Abortions are performed on fetuses already dead???

    This is what is going on in America, and around the world, today.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Abortions are performed on fetuses already dead???...
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    Yes , when a fetus dies a natural death in the womb and it is not expelled a doctor performs an abortion to remove the dead fetus and the fetal material.

    The medical term abortion means the fetal material is removed from the womb.

    When a woman miscarries it is called a spontaneous abortion.

    If the fetus dies and is not expelled it is called a missed abortion.

    When the doctor removes the dead fetus and fetal material it is called a therapeutic abortion.

    When a doctor performs an abortion to save the life or reparable harm to a major bodily function of a woman it is also called a
    therapeutic abortion.

    All abortions that doctors perform including therapeutic abortions are included in abortion stats.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Yes , when a fetus dies a natural death in the womb and it is not expelled a doctor performs an abortion to remove the dead fetus and the fetal material.

    The medical term abortion means the fetal material is removed from the womb.

    When a woman miscarries it is called a spontaneous abortion.

    If the fetus dies and is not expelled it is called a missed abortion.

    When the doctor removes the dead fetus and fetal material it is called a therapeutic abortion.

    When a doctor performs an abortion to save the life or reparable harm to a major bodily function of a woman it is also called a
    therapeutic abortion.

    All abortions that doctors perform including therapeutic abortions are included in abortion stats.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    What does an article about illegal abortions have to with legal theraputic abortions of a fetus that died in the womb naturally?
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Medical terms for the types of abortions:

    abortion /abor·tion/ (ah-bor´shun)
    1. expulsion from the uterus of the products of conception before the fetus is viable.
    2. premature stoppage of a natural or a pathological process.

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    artificial abortion induced a.
    complete abortion one in which all the products of conception are expelled from the uterus and identified.
    habitual abortion spontaneous abortion occurring in three or more successive pregnancies, at about the same level of development.

    incomplete abortion that with retention of parts of the products of conception.

    induced abortion that brought on intentionally by medication or instrumentation.

    inevitable abortion a condition in which vaginal bleeding has been profuse and the cervix has become dilated, and abortion will invariably occur.

    infected abortion that associated with infection of the genital tract.

    missed abortion retention in the uterus of an abortus that has been dead for at least eight weeks.
    septic abortion that associated with serious infection of the uterus leading to generalized infection.

    spontaneous abortion that occurring naturally.

    therapeutic abortion that induced for medical considerations.

    threatened abortion a condition in which vaginal bleeding is less than in inevitable abortion and the cervix is not dilated, and abortion may or may not occur.
    missed abortion - definition of missed abortion in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Abortions are performed on fetuses already dead???

    This is what is going on in America, and around the world, today.

    The Unmourned - By Mark Steyn - The Corner - National Review Online
    yes, please catch up and educate yourself on what an abortion actually is LMAO

    also abortion are preformed and sometimes the ZEF lives, guess what, the abortion was 100% successful

    i know unless a person actually CARES to find out actual facts and information its hard sometimes because of all the les spread about this topic but the LIFE of the ZEF has ZERO impact on the procedure.

    you're welcome, let me know if theres any other fallacies you need cleared up for you
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    What does an article about illegal abortions have to with legal theraputic abortions of a fetus that died in the womb naturally?
    nothing, it has ZERO to do with "abortion"
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes, please catch up and educate yourself on what an abortion actually is LMAO

    also abortion are preformed and sometimes the ZEF lives, guess what, the abortion was 100% successful

    i know unless a person actually CARES to find out actual facts and information its hard sometimes because of all the les spread about this topic but the LIFE of the ZEF has ZERO impact on the procedure.

    you're welcome, let me know if theres any other fallacies you need cleared up for you
    Are you hoping the name change gives you some credibility?

    You're still a loser.

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