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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    yes im well aware of what your OPINION is

    the fact still remains that pregnancy is a factual risk of life, there is not changing this fact

    you could debate how much risk but the risk is always there and you have no right forcing anybody to risk their life against their will

    in your next post please refrain from making stuff up
    i never mentioned any of the nonsense you stated LMAO do you do that to make yourself feel right about your opinion? honest posters see right through this LOL

    fact remains, pregnancy is a risk to life PERIOD

    cant wait to read what you make up next
    There is risk in abortion as well. Haven't you heard?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    You're losing it! Killing me won't make you prettier or prevent you from getting uglier. Some effects from pregnancy/childbirth are not "a minor nuisance", and anyway what is a minor nuisance to you may be a major problem for someone else. But things like pelvic floor damage are not minor. Certainly if you think the pregnancy/childbirth is making you ugly, you have the right to end it.
    On the other hand, aborting a healthy baby can make you even uglier.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    1.)Again, show me those who are willing to risk women's lives??
    2.)Not every women who has is pregnant is risking her life.
    3.)If that were the case the mortality rate for women giving birth would be through the roof.
    1.) already did
    2.) false, yes ALL woman are factually doing this
    3.) no it would not, the mortality rate would be high if the risk was high

    so again, banning abortion forces woman to risk their lives against their will, this is a simple fact
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is risk in abortion as well. Haven't you heard?
    you are 100% correct! Its lower than giving birth and if people were trying to FORCE woman to get them id be agaisnt that too!

    seems you are missing the basic facts, its the force that is the issue, not the risk alone
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    you are 100% correct! Its lower than giving birth and if people were trying to FORCE woman to get them id be agaisnt that too!

    seems you are missing the basic facts, its the force that is the issue, not the risk alone
    Of course he is missing "facts" considering that you seem to be able to make them up in your own head...What you said here is patently false.

    According to the best record based study of deaths following pregnancy and abortion, a 1997 government funded study in Finland, women who abort are approximately four times more likely to die in the following year than women who carry their pregnancies to term.

    Abortion Risks: A list of major physical complications related to abortion | After Abortion
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    On the other hand, aborting a healthy baby can make you even uglier.
    Beauty, or lack of it, is in the eyes of the beholder. So you're free to make your own judgement on that.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Beauty, or lack of it, is in the eyes of the beholder. So you're free to make your own judgement on that.
    Meanwhile, you can insert your age here again, as if it matters.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course he is missing "facts" considering that you seem to be able to make them up in your own head...What you said here is patently false.
    and the studies done here in america say otherwise and there have been more than your one posted here
    Abortion safer than giving birth: study | Reuters

    Dr. Elizabeth Raymond from Gynuity Health Projects in New York City and Dr. David Grimes of the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, Chapel Hill, found that between 1998 and 2005, one woman died during childbirth for every 11,000 or so babies born.

    That compared to one woman of every 167,000 who died from a legal abortion.

    The researchers also cited a study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention which found that, from 1998 to 2001, the most common complications associated with pregnancy -- including high blood pressure, urinary tract infections and mental health conditions -- happened more often in women who had a live birth than those who got an abortion.
    if you are gonna try to jump in please know what you are talking about

    so NOPE its not false LMAO

    not to mention if you are paying attention the part doesnt change anything even if we lived in finland

    the discussion is about FORCE,
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    and the studies done here in america say otherwise and there have been more than your one posted here
    Abortion safer than giving birth: study | Reuters



    if you are gonna try to jump in please know what you are talking about

    so NOPE its not false LMAO

    not to mention if you are paying attention the part doesnt change anything even if we lived in finland

    the discussion is about FORCE,

    No, the studies are different...They are not apples to apples. Plus, I agree it is about force, liberals forcing their values on the rest of society through judicial fiat.

    Like I said before, and maintain, pro abortion is all about easing their own conscience by renaming what it is they are killing. It is deplorable.

    Why do liberals hate children?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Of course he is missing "facts" considering that you seem to be able to make them up in your own head...What you said here is patently false.
    We are talking about risk of death from childbirth and abortions that take place in the United States at or within days of giving birth or having an abortion.
    Last edited by minnie616; 03-15-13 at 11:37 AM.
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