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    Re: UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Would love to see how long the U.N. would last without U.S backing.
    About .0000000000001 seconds my good friend.
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    Re: UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances states:

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    So the US government is still constrained by US law. The individual states don't sing on to these treaties. The federal government does and it is obligated to pass alws in keeping with the treaty. However, if the laws are intruding onto an area that should be a state's rights issue (such as what drugs should be legal) then the treaty should hold no sway.

    That is one of the issues about the UN. Not all nations have the same government styles. Some issues fall into the hands of the states, who are not signatories, rather than the national government, who is. Once we can get the courts to establish this is a state's rights issue then the treaty is worthless as far a the US goes, since the treaty itself states it is subject to each Party's "constitutional principles" and "legal system".

    And I don't know crap about the law other than what I read on wikipedia so I could be talking out my a$$.
    No, this doesn't apply since it's clearly not unconstitutional to outlaw pot. If, the other hand, SCOTUS found a right to toke in the Constitution...

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    Re: UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties

    The U.S. wrote UN drug policy, so this is really just the U.S. telling the U.S. to crack down on WA and CO. It looks better if there's an outside pretext.

    The Fed is just playing dead right now until the business infrastructure exposes itself in WA/CO, then it will begin the raids and arrests. How do we know? Because it's what they did to CA. The DEA has no respect for state's rights, they just want to maximize their attack.

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    Re: UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties | Nation & World | The Seattle Times

    Originally published March 5, 2013 at 6:36 AM | Page modified March 5, 2013 at 9:46 AM



    UN dictating us policies??

    Is this a cautionary tale of where globalization is taking us?

    Is this ok because of treaties?
    If I remember rightly, it was the U.S. government that originally pressed for such treaties.

    And I would like to see what the UN will do about it - return all the money in foreign aid we dole out to other nations and even the UN itself?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If I remember rightly, it was the U.S. government that originally pressed for such treaties.

    And I would like to see what the UN will do about it - return all the money in foreign aid we dole out to other nations and even the UN itself?
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    Re: UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    UN: Colo., Wash. legal pot violates drug treaties | Nation & World | The Seattle Times

    Originally published March 5, 2013 at 6:36 AM | Page modified March 5, 2013 at 9:46 AM



    UN dictating us policies??

    Is this a cautionary tale of where globalization is taking us?

    Is this ok because of treaties?
    I don't know why anyone pays attention to the UN.

    The UN is absolutely meaningless, but the funny part is the UN pretends like they're the most powerful organization on the planet.

    It's so delusional.

    They're like a bunch of little girls sitting around playing "tea" while pretending to be a bunch of aristocrats.

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