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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Useless? You might want to ask Paul Laxalt, who lost a Senate seat by 48 votes, about that.
    Again, registration fraud doesn't mean votes were cast.

    Far more concerning would be voter suppression, where 50 people received robo calls telling them to stay home, or flyers with the wrong election date printed on them. Worst of all, fraudulent votes can be purged when found and results overturned if needed. You can't unpurge a vote that didn't happen.
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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Again, registration fraud doesn't mean votes were cast.
    Well since you can't vote if you aren't registered it's the first step. What exactly are you registering to do?
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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Voter fraud happens in the polling place itself by the election judge and polling site employees. It is remarkably easy to do. I was a Democratic election judge for a precinct one time. I could have cast hundreds of votes if I had wanted to. Just wait until near the end, see who hadn't voted, sign or have someone sign their name, and vote for the person. Even if later proven that person had not voted (not likely detected), there would be no way to remove that vote from the total nor prove I did it.

    Ir really is that simple and that is the source of nearly all voter fraud - which can happen on a huge scale.
    That sounds a lot like like a problem faced by individuals unrelated to demographics or political parties, contrary to the rhetoric that one party or another has cast any significant number of false votes. The greatest threat to electoral integrity remains the efforts to restrict voting rights, such as with ID laws.
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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Well since you can't vote if you aren't registered it's the first step. What exactly are you registering to do?
    Get paid. We went over this already.
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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Get paid. We went over this already.
    "Election fraud does exist, but hasn’t been shown to be widespread. The New York Times reported in 2007 that a five-year crackdown on such fraud by the Bush administration’s Justice Department had produced 70 convictions at the federal level, including 40 campaign workers or government workers convicted of vote-buying, intimidation or ballot forgery, and 23 cases of multiple voting or voting by ineligible voters. But the Times described these as unconnected incidents and said the Justice Department had turned up no evidence of "any organized effort to skew federal elections."

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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    "Election fraud does exist, but hasn’t been shown to be widespread. The New York Times reported in 2007 that a five-year crackdown on such fraud by the Bush administration’s Justice Department had produced 70 convictions at the federal level, including 40 campaign workers or government workers convicted of vote-buying, intimidation or ballot forgery, and 23 cases of multiple voting or voting by ineligible voters. But the Times described these as unconnected incidents and said the Justice Department had turned up no evidence of "any organized effort to skew federal elections."

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    Right. Fraudulent votes occur, but this case isn't how that happens. This is lazy employees filling out forms instead of walking around registering people. Registering someone who doesn't exist doesn't lead to a fraudulent vote.
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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. Fraudulent votes occur, but this case isn't how that happens. This is lazy employees filling out forms instead of walking around registering people. Registering someone who doesn't exist doesn't lead to a fraudulent vote.
    Unless someone actually shows up claiming to be that person.
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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    This is just one organization who registers voters. They pay by the hour not by number registered.

    "PA 2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud. "

    "IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant."

    "TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information."

    "WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies."

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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Not what some might have expected I know. The GOP has been so loud about voter fraud on the left of the political spectrum, they do hate to admit they have similar behaviour in their own ranks.

    Like the case in Virginia last year: Virginia voter fraud case expands to focus on GOP firm - Washington Post
    What's the beef here?

    Those of you on the left condone such behavior, by continually opposing measures to prevent such practices.

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    Re: UPDATED: Florida finds evidence of voter registration fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    What's the beef here?

    Those of you on the left condone such behavior, by continually opposing measures to prevent such practices.

    Really!?! We "on the left condone such behavior"? Tell us, how many cases of actual vote fraud have occurred in the past 20 years?

    ACORN had problems because they were paying people to go and get voter registration forms filled in, people who had no other income. ACORN was required by law to turn in filled-out voter registration cards - even when they knew the form was fraudulent.
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