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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ahem, And where do banks get their money? Please tell me that you are not so misinformed about the way money effects an economy that you are actually taking the same position as Bernanke on "digitizing money"?
    From Savings, and holdings, as well as the Federal reserve, however the credit bubble had nothing to do with the Fed suddenly dishing out tons and tons of Cash, the Capitalist class had billions of unused capital, with no extra productiev markets to invest in, so they create credit bubbles to make extra profit.

    When you take a mortgage out on you're house, that money isn't printed for your house ... the same when that motgage is securitized.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    From Savings, and holdings, as well as the Federal reserve, however the credit bubble had nothing to do with the Fed suddenly dishing out tons and tons of Cash, the Capitalist class had billions of unused capital, with no extra productiev markets to invest in, so they create credit bubbles to make extra profit.

    When you take a mortgage out on you're house, that money isn't printed for your house ... the same when that motgage is securitized.
    And where does the Fed get their money?
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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And where does the Fed get their money?
    You know the answer to this ... but arguing that that the bubble was state created, would need to assume that the fed was giving out money faster than usual, which wasn't the case ...

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    You know the answer to this ... but arguing that that the bubble was state created, would need to assume that the fed was giving out money faster than usual, which wasn't the case ...

    Oh? Really? Check the CRA, there's your bubble....Demo created, demo nurtured, demo forced, then when it came tumbling down, demo disowned.
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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    You don't need one Medusa__Your Marxist Utopia will seize control of existing oil companies along with all great industries to provide you the Social Justice you so very much desire_

    And those magnificent visionaries who dreamed, created and invested their lives and fortunes to build these great industrial empires will be robbed of a lifetime of work and sacrifice_

    And when the producers no longer have an incentive to produce, the wheels of industry invention and innovation will rust and civilization will slowly grind to a halt causing people around the world to ask "where is John Galt?"_

    I seriously doubt you have the slightest idea of what I'm talking about because you live in a fantasy world_
    emprica ,l dont have any utopia because l know humans are selfish by nature .this utopia can never come true under current conditions .in fact this current condition has never changed since humans learnt to own private properties during agricultural period .

    every class should defend their own rights and l understand you .what l dont understand is why some people feel the need to defend the benefits of global corporations and capitalism .


    and those industrial empires got rich by exploitation of those workers! .

    conservative values and religion are usually abused by the globalist greedy class to make people convince that they should always be gratefull to god for the things he gave them as if god mentions capitalism in holy books .tahts why so many conservatives usually support the rightist parties although they are not very rich .

    l am thankful to god too.but for the mind he gave me
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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    You don't need one Medusa__Your Marxist Utopia will seize control of existing oil companies along with all great industries to provide you the Social Justice you so very much desire_

    And those magnificent visionaries who dreamed, created and invested their lives and fortunes to build these great industrial empires will be robbed of a lifetime of work and sacrifice_

    And when the producers no longer have an incentive to produce, the wheels of industry invention and innovation will rust and civilization will slowly grind to a halt causing people around the world to ask "where is John Galt?"_

    I seriously doubt you have the slightest idea of what I'm talking about because you live in a fantasy world_
    emprica ,l dont have any utopia because l know humans are selfish by nature .this utopia can never come true under current conditions .in fact this current condition has never changed since humans learnt to own private properties during agricultural period .

    every class should defend their own rights and l understand you .what l dont understand is why some people feel the need to defend the benefits of global corporations and capitalism .


    and those industrial empires got rich by exploitation of those workers! .

    conservative values and religion are usually abused by the globalist greedy class to make people convince that they should always be gratefull to god for the things he gave them as if god mentions capitalism in holy books .tahts why so many conservatives usually support the rightist parties although they are not very rich .

    l am thankful to god too but for the mind he gave me
    "Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    emprica ,l dont have any utopia because l know humans are selfish by nature .this utopia can never come true under current conditions .in fact this current condition has never changed since humans learnt to own private properties during agricultural period .

    every class should defend their own rights and l understand you .what l dont understand is why some people feel the need to defend the benefits of global corporations and capitalism .


    and those industrial empires got rich by exploitation of those workers! .

    conservative values and religion are usually abused by the globalist greedy class to make people convince that they should always be gratefull to god for the things he gave them as if god mentions capitalism in holy books .tahts why so many conservatives usually support the rightist parties although they are not very rich .

    l am thankful to god too but for the mind he gave me
    Why is it that so many that hate capitalism, live in capitalist countries?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why is it that so many that hate capitalism, live in capitalist countries?
    you ask a question which has its own answer in itself
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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you ask a question which has its own answer in itself
    So you think you need to force people to live how you want them to live?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you think you need to force people to live how you want them to live?
    it is your own claim

    no need to lie...............
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