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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Looks Like we will be sending our Condolences.

    U.S. officials expected to attend Chavez funeral....

    Delegation to be announced by White House.
    No plans to reciprocate after U.S. diplomats expelled.

    (Reuters) - The United States is expected to send a delegation to Hugo Chavez's funeral later this week in a move that could send a conciliatory message to Venezuela now that its stridently anti-American leader has died.

    A senior State Department official said the United States was reviewing its response to Venezuela's expulsion of the two military officials and said it had the right to reciprocate in kind but for now it would not be doing so.

    The U.S. Embassy in Caracas has been without an ambassador since 2010, when Chavez rejected the U.S. appointee. That led Washington to revoke the credentials of Venezuela's ambassador.

    U.S. President Barack Obama issued a statement shortly after Chavez's death was announced, expressing an interest in a "constructive relationship" in the post-Chavez era. But analysts said Washington would be challenged to figure out a way to engage with Venezuelan leaders and the opposition without appearing to meddle in the South American oil-producing nation.

    The senior State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the United States would like a "more functional" relationship with the Venezuelan government going forward.....snip~

    U.S. officials expected to attend Chavez funeral | Reuters

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelW View Post
    You would be surprised how populism and rhetoric work. Chavez is still extremely popular in Venezuela and will probably remain so for decades after his death, like Peron of Argentina.
    perhaps that has something to do with reducing poverty by 66% and extreme poverty by more, increasing education and healthcare significnatly, bringing democracy into communities and starting a vibrant cooperative economy, as well as keeping the oil wealth FOR the country and actually bettering the country significantly.

    I love you how assume Latin Americans are stupid and only respont to rhetoric, maybe its the actual outcomes of policies that make hiim popular.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    perhaps that has something to do with reducing poverty by 66% and extreme poverty by more, increasing education and healthcare significnatly, bringing democracy into communities and starting a vibrant cooperative economy, as well as keeping the oil wealth FOR the country and actually bettering the country significantly.

    I love you how assume Latin Americans are stupid and only respont to rhetoric, maybe its the actual outcomes of policies that make hiim popular.
    Then why is the country left in an economic turmoil? Sure maybe the poor benefited from Chavez diminishing the income inequality. Yet not only have they counted the corruption but the sheer waste. Which would mean incompetence.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    perhaps that has something to do with reducing poverty by 66% and extreme poverty by more, increasing education and healthcare significnatly, bringing democracy into communities and starting a vibrant cooperative economy, as well as keeping the oil wealth FOR the country and actually bettering the country significantly.

    I love you how assume Latin Americans are stupid and only respont to rhetoric, maybe its the actual outcomes of policies that make hiim popular.


    Through great effort Chavez was able to single handedly boost world oil prices by 500% during his tenure, hugely boosting Venezuela's only real export, raising many Venezuelans to just above international poverty line, limiting real poverty to only his political rivals and only keeping $2 billion in state revenue for himself. Such a trooper!

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Then why is the country left in an economic turmoil? Sure maybe the poor benefited from Chavez diminishing the income inequality. Yet not only have they counted the corruption but the sheer waste. Which would mean incompetence.
    What corruption? How is Venezuelan corruption anymore than any other latin american country .... the poor benefited A LOT, and so did the middle class ... that is what a good economic policy does.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Through great effort Chavez was able to single handedly boost world oil prices by 500% during his tenure, hugely boosting Venezuela's only real export, raising many Venezuelans to just above international poverty line, limiting real poverty to only his political rivals and only keeping $2 billion in state revenue for himself. Such a trooper!
    Source that oil prices went up 500% and that it is CAUSED by Chavez.

    Also that his economic policies actually pick out political rivals? lor that he has personally embezzled 2 billion dollars ....

    Do you have ANY sources for that?

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    What corruption? How is Venezuelan corruption anymore than any other latin american country .... the poor benefited A LOT, and so did the middle class ... that is what a good economic policy does.
    Well his failure to diversify has led to their stagnation. All their inlays comes thru Petroleum Products and considering the Price of Oil is not the same when Chavez first came in he could have done more. Plus Rueters did a piece on the state corruption with Fonden which runs 1/3rd of all Venezuela's Investments.

    The waste is everywhere. Just like when Chavez tried to work out his massive housing deal.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Source that oil prices went up 500% and that it is CAUSED by Chavez.

    Well, first, the price of a barrel of crude was $22 in 1997, it is currently $111.00.

    Second, the rest of the joke zoomed over your head.


    Also that his economic policies actually pick out political rivals? lor that he has personally embezzled 2 billion dollars ....

    free-speech.jpg

    And...

    Chavez worth $2 billion


    Do you have ANY sources for that?

    Yep.

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    perhaps that has something to do with reducing poverty by 66% and extreme
    poverty by more, increasing education and healthcare significnatly, bringing democracy into communities and starting a vibrant cooperative economy, as well as keeping the oil wealth FOR the country and actually bettering the country significantly.

    I love you how assume Latin Americans are stupid and only respont to rhetoric, maybe its the actual outcomes of policies that make hiim popular.
    Oh BS.

    You people on the left need to STOP LYING. At least to Americans.

    Venezuela was a backwards Socialist crime ridden hell hole under Chavez who devalued their currency making everything more expensive and nationalized the oil industry as Venezuelas neighbors were expanding their free markets and actually HELPING the poor.

    His manipulation of the his nationalized oil companies drove fuel prices up all over the world.

    Socialism guarantees evrryone, not just the poor suffer

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    Re: AP: VP of Venezuela Has Announced Hugo Chavez has Died

    Here's what a Venezuelan says about him:

    10 reasons why I will not miss Chavez - CNN iReport

    And here's CNN's fact-check.

    Fact check: 10 reasons I won

    Chavez defenders aren't going to like it much.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

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