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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Is that true though? I thought the opposite was true. Take OJ for example.
    She is proposing that, not saying that is how the law is.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    They're saying that the fire department's incident report states that when emergency personnel arrived the woman was not breathing and did not have a pulse.
    Thanks, I didn't catch that. It doesn't jive with the rest of the reports that say she didn't die until sometime later in the hospital.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    She is proposing that, not saying that is how the law is.
    Gotcha, thanks.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Is that true though? I thought the opposite was true. Take OJ for example.
    No, I wasn't clear. I was talking specifically about Good Samaritan Laws containing something prohibiting lawsuits unless one is found criminally liable.
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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We've determined that it would have caused a lot more harm than good...The mortality rate for CPR on the elderly sits around 95%.
    What's the mortality rate for someone who isn't breathing and has no pulse?

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What's the mortality rate for someone who isn't breathing and has no pulse?
    Maybe she was only mostly dead.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What's the mortality rate for someone who isn't breathing and has no pulse?
    Well, since she didn't die until much later, the obvious answer doesn't apply here. The EMTs were obviously able to resuscitate her.

    But that highlights another piece of missing info - did the EMTs administer CPR?

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What's the mortality rate for someone who isn't breathing and has no pulse?
    This woman was breathing and no one ever checked her pulse.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This woman was breathing and no one ever checked her pulse.
    If you are breathing you have a pulse. If you have a pulse, you are not necessarily breathing.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    If you are breathing you have a pulse.
    And therefore you would not perform CPR.

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