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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WRONG. The elderly woman, Ms. Bayless, had signed a DNR order, had also signed consent to the "no on site medical care" provisions of the facility
    CBS is reporting otherwise and I'm more inclined to err on the side of reason and compassion.

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    ...and even her own daughter, a nurse, agreed that proper care was given to her mother.
    Right, says the daughter who dumped her mother in a death house. Abandoning the elderly is a sick practice in this country.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    CPR isn't magic. It's not like on TV, where three quarters of interventions are successful, and people sit up alert and oriented straight off. The actual success rate is less than half that, worse for the elderly, and most survivors have days or weeks of recovery ahead, with many suffering permanent disability from either the cause of the incident or the treatment.
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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    CBS is reporting otherwise and I'm more inclined to err on the side of reason and compassion.



    Right, says the daughter who dumped her mother in a death house. Abandoning the elderly is a sick practice in this country.
    For God's sake- an assited living facility isn't a death house. Most of them cost through the nose to live in, and are a nice place to live for the residents who are there.
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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    For God's sake- an assited living facility isn't a death house. Most of them cost through the nose to live in, and are a nice place to live for the residents who are there.
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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    For God's sake- an assited living facility isn't a death house. Most of them cost through the nose to live in, and are a nice place to live for the residents who are there.
    $2192 minimum per month in her case. She lived in the independent living section.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    CBS is reporting otherwise and I'm more inclined to err on the side of reason and compassion.



    Right, says the daughter who dumped her mother in a death house. Abandoning the elderly is a sick practice in this country.
    No links? Just how long was this old woman supposed to live? 92? 103? Do you have any idea what her medical condition was? Many people die younger than 86. Not everyone that dies was "abandoned" or "mistreated". What makes you even think that she was even "sick"? I have had friends suffer strokes, contract cancer and have all sorts of "sudden onset" conditions but know that they were (and many are) still loved and cared for. It is 100% guaranteed that everyone born will die, regardless of the statndard of care afforded them. You jump to conclusions based on your assertions, yet do not provide us evidence to back them up. I have no dog in this hunt, I simply supply information available to me - I suggest that you do the same.
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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No links?
    I provided the link in post #106.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Just how long was this old woman supposed to live? 92? 103? Do you have any idea what her medical condition was? Many people die younger than 86. Not everyone that dies was "abandoned" or "mistreated". What makes you even think that she was even "sick"? I have had friends suffer strokes, contract cancer and have all sorts of "sudden onset" conditions but know that they were (and many are) still loved and cared for. It is 100% guaranteed that everyone born will die, regardless of the statndard of care afforded them. You jump to conclusions based on your assertions, yet do not provide us evidence to back them up. I have no dog in this hunt, I simply supply information available to me - I suggest that you do the same.
    Just because every human will inevitably die doesn't mean you should simply stand there watching them die without attempting to save them. That isn't medicine. That isn't nursing. The facts are that CPR is called for in this situation and it was not administered. We don't know if CPR would have saved the woman but we do know that a licensed medical professional is ethically obligated to provide assistance in such situations and that pathetic excuse of a nurse didn't even try. Here's hoping that your local medical professionals don't hold your view should you ever have a heart attack.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The facts are that CPR is called for in this situation and it was not administered.
    You don't perform CPR on someone who's still breathing.

    Did you notice how the 911 operator never had anyone check the woman's pulse? Chest compressions on a heart that's still beating = bad.

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    Re: Calif. woman dies after nurse refuses to perform CPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You don't perform CPR on someone who's still breathing. Did you notice how the 911 operator never had anyone check the woman's pulse? Chest compressions on a heart that's still beating = bad.
    I'm going to go with the American Heart Association on this one. BTW - The nurse should have checked her pulse. What exactly is the function of this nurse anyway?

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