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First woman to try out for the NFL

Ikari said:
How does this have anything to do with women's rights?
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If anything, it has to do with it in the sense of pushing it back.

The entire thing was a ridiculous publicity stunt, one that she happily took part in and one the league happily facilitated. All the while, it actually sets back any notion of a legitimate situation similar to this occuring. She got out there, performed a horrible first attempt and an even worse second attempt, all the while injuring herself as well. This was nothing but a step back for any female actually ever hoping to maybe even be looked at as an even SEMI-legitimate shot.

At least someone like Katie Hnida or Julie Harshbarger would have been COMPETENT and have a resume of actual experience kicking in a football environment, and even then likely would've been leaps and bounds behind the other college kickers there.

It was ridiculous.
 
OMG a female punter kicked the ball a total of 35 yards in 2 attempts.

Then got injured.

If anyone knows anything about football, this ought to induce laughter and ridicule.

This was a setback for gender equality--proving changing times don't change the laws of physics.
 
muciti said:
A team may use a late round pick for the publicity.
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Not likely. If you're looking to hire The Next Jackie Robinson, there better be at least a chance that he/she might do something worthy. Being the first and then washing out -- never good for anyone involved.
 
Tigger said:
That was one of my biggest questions with her, as well. Could she be counted on to make any sort of reasonable attempt to tackle a returner? Could she block or catch/throw the ball on a fake. She definitely wouldn't be able to run the ball on a fake. I have no problem with letting her try out. I would on the other hand have a major problem if my beloved Redskins even considered drafting her, regardless of how well her tryout might have gone.
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Should the NFL then ban women from trying out entirely?

There is a finite amount of time at these regional combines and the NFL just can't accommodate everyone looking for gridiron glory or their 15 minutes of fame.
 
Dapper Andy said:
Should the NFL then ban women from trying out entirely?

There is a finite amount of time at these regional combines and the NFL just can't accommodate everyone looking for gridiron glory or their 15 minutes of fame.
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Dude, this was a publicity stunt which backfired, not some Great Leap Forward.
 
Harshaw said:
Dude, this was a publicity stunt which backfired, not some Great Leap Forward.
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Yeah, I know that.

Do you think the NFL should avoid these publicity stunts in the future by just banning women from the game?

Or maybe more relevant altogether, should the NCAA ban women from playing college football? It's pretty neat to see someone like Katie Hnida put points on the board in a game but it's not hard to imagine a botched snap literally resulting in her death if she was foolish enough to pick up the live ball.
 
Dapper Andy said:
Do you think the NFL should avoid these publicity stunts in the future by just banning women from the game?
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Nothing I've said indicates in the slightest that I do.
 
Harshaw said:
Nothing I've said indicates in the slightest that I do.
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Nor have you said anything that indicates that you don't ... which is why I asked.

That's typically how questions and answers work.

I don't know why you're so hostile in this thread but participation is completely voluntary.
 
Dapper Andy said:
Nor have you said anything that indicates that you don't ... which is why I asked.

That's typically how questions and answers work.

I don't know why you're so hostile in this thread but participation is completely voluntary.
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I'm not the slightest bit hostile. But simply saying that a publicity stunt backfired in no way indicates I might possibly think the NFL should ban all women from trying out. Your question is what's actually "hostile," seeing as you seem to think I must be against women in the NFL altogether because I noted the bottom fell out of this stunt. Me, I don't assume untoward things about people because they didn't indicate they DON'T feel that way.

In fact, as others have pointed out, if you're truly interested in getting women into the NFL, you should condemn this stunt, 'coz it pretty much closes the door on more women trying out for at least a while. And that's not because I want it to, but because that's just how it'll play.
 
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Dapper Andy said:
Yeah, I know that.

Do you think the NFL should avoid these publicity stunts in the future by just banning women from the game?

Or maybe more relevant altogether, should the NCAA ban women from playing college football? It's pretty neat to see someone like Katie Hnida put points on the board in a game but it's not hard to imagine a botched snap literally resulting in her death if she was foolish enough to pick up the live ball.
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You don't seem to know that. Unless I completely missed sarcasm in the OP, but your other posts in this thread seem to indicate that I didn't.

Dapper Andy said:
Woman Tries Out at N.F.L. Regional Scouting Combine

It hasn't garnered a tremendous amount of media attention but Lauren Silberman may potentially be the Jackie Robinson of her era and gender as she became the first woman to audition at a regional NFL combine. We won't know if she'll play in the NFL until after the draft and it's unlikely that she would be drafted in the first round but this is definitely a historic and exciting day for football and women's rights.
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Dapper Andy said:
Woman Tries Out at N.F.L. Regional Scouting Combine

It hasn't garnered a tremendous amount of media attention but Lauren Silberman may potentially be the Jackie Robinson of her era and gender as she became the first woman to audition at a regional NFL combine. We won't know if she'll play in the NFL until after the draft and it's unlikely that she would be drafted in the first round but this is definitely a historic and exciting day for football and women's rights.
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Whew.

Bud, I'm a pretty big guy and far from being a wuss, but I wouldn't be in any hurry to let any of those NFL monsters tackle me or otherwise slam into me bodily. NFL linemen and defensive backs are very large very strong very fracking dangerous individuals, and while there might be a gal or three somewhere around that is sturdy enough to stand up to that kind of pounding week after week, I have my doubts.
 
Dapper Andy said:
Woman Tries Out at N.F.L. Regional Scouting Combine

It hasn't garnered a tremendous amount of media attention but Lauren Silberman may potentially be the Jackie Robinson of her era and gender as she became the first woman to audition at a regional NFL combine. We won't know if she'll play in the NFL until after the draft and it's unlikely that she would be drafted in the first round but this is definitely a historic and exciting day for football and women's rights.
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I think this pretty much sums it up...

Lauren Silberman stages pointless sideshow at regional combine - Lauren Silberman stages pointless sideshow at regional combine - NFL.com

Watch the video, she sucks.
 
Goshin said:
Whew.

Bud, I'm a pretty big guy and far from

being a wuss, but I wouldn't be in any hurry to let any of those NFL monsters tackle me or otherwise slam into me bodily. NFL linemen and defensive backs are very large very strong very fracking dangerous individuals, and while there might be a gal or three somewhere around that is sturdy enough to stand up to that kind of pounding week after week, I have my doubts.
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Oh I don't just doubt it, I know there is no such women on the face of this Earth.

I'm 6'5", 260 pounds and I'm pretty strong. Played Football and Basketball in High School.

I got to meet an ex-NFL Offensive tackle one time, ( I wont give his name but a really nice guy ) he owned a few restaurants around my fair city.

He was my height, but dwarfed me otherwise. Being 6'5" you are ofcourse graced with large hands when I shook his hand he almost totally enclosed my entire fist with his handshake.

Thats the only the second time someones had a larger hand than me, the other was a Houston Rocket who was 6'9" 370 and all muscle.

These are the elite of American Proffesional sports, even if they're awesome in college once they enter the NFL they have access to specialist in strength and conditioning and only get stronger.

The people that think a female should be out there on the field are fooling themselves.

There are offensive line men that can run 4.4 40's at over 300 pounds.
 
Harshaw said:
I'm not the slightest bit hostile. But simply saying that a publicity stunt backfired in no way indicates I might possibly think the NFL should ban all women from trying out. Your question is what's actually "hostile," seeing as you seem to think I must be against women in the NFL altogether because I noted the bottom fell out of this stunt. Me, I don't assume untoward things about people because they didn't indicate they DON'T feel that way.

In fact, as others have pointed out, if you're truly interested in getting women into the NFL, you should condemn this stunt, 'coz it pretty much closes the door on more women trying out for at least a while. And that's not because I want it to, but because that's just how it'll play.
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I've said absolutely nothing about you being against women in this or any thread.
 
Dapper Andy said:
I've said absolutely nothing about you being against women in this or any thread.
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No, you just asked if I thought the NFL should avoid publicity stunts by banning women from trying out, for no reason whatsoever.

Do you think clubbing baby seals is a good hobby? You haven't indicated that you don't, so I thought I'd ask just to find out.
 
Considering tendencies in the NFL fraternity, if she made a team she'd likely be beat around quite a bit and not just by an opposing team. But I'm sure the sportswriting brotherhood would be happy to "cover" her in the lockerroom scrums.
 
Harshaw said:
No, you just asked if I thought the NFL should avoid publicity stunts by banning women from trying out, for no reason whatsoever.

Do you think clubbing baby seals is a good hobby? You haven't indicated that you don't, so I thought I'd ask just to find out.
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No reason whatsoever?

You're posting in a thread about women not having the size or ability to play in the NFL trying out in the NFL.
 
Dapper Andy said:
No reason whatsoever?

You're posting in a thread about women not having the size or ability to play in the NFL trying out in the NFL.
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I never said anything of the sort, nor is it what I consider the thread to be about. And nothing I've said at all indicates otherwise on either count.

So, whatever you're on about, and however badly you're itching to call someone sexist, go bark up some other tree.
 
Harshaw said:
I never said anything of the sort, nor is it what I consider the thread to be about. And nothing I've said at all indicates otherwise on either count.

So, whatever you're on about, and however badly you're itching to call someone sexist, go bark up some other tree.
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I have said absolutely nothing to you or anyone else about sexism nor do I have any intention on it.

I really don't understand why you're so hostile here but, as a friendly reminder, it is all voluntary.
 
Dapper Andy said:
I have said absolutely nothing to you or anyone else about sexism nor do I have any intention on it.

I really don't understand why you're so hostile here but, as a friendly reminder, it is all voluntary.
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No, 'cuz saying I'd want to ban all women from trying out for the NFL isn't in any way about "sexism."

At least have the cojones to own what you spew. If you're going to be so cowardly in your (not-so-)veiled accusations, why are you even bothering?
 
After reading this thread, I feel as though the Jets might honestly go pick her up now.
 
Harshaw said:
No, 'cuz saying I'd want to ban all women from trying out for the NFL isn't in any way about "sexism."

At least have the cojones to own what you spew. If you're going to be so cowardly in your (not-so-)veiled accusations, why are you even bothering?
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There is nothing to own up to. I'm not accusing you of anything.
 
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