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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Don't use Wiki as a source, chances are you wrote that definition, or you and the author agree.

    A Democrat by any other name is still a Democrat, they still push policies that enable dependence, poverty and crime.

    What's the unemployment rate for blacks mow ? Young black men ? Whats the crime rate in cities like Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans ?

    Cities exclusively run ny Democrats for decades.

    Nothings changed with the exception of the overt expressions of hate.
    Or not. Here, let me help you learn how to use wiki. It is not hard so hopefully you can handle this. Go to the bottom of the wiki page and you will find this:

    • ^ Lemmon, Sarah McCulloh. "Ideology of the 'Dixiecrat Movement," Social Forces Vol. 30, No. 2 (Dec., 1951), pp. 162-171 in JSTOR
    • ^ John F. Bibby and Louis Sandy Maisel, Two parties--or more?: the American party system (1998) p 35
    • ^ Kari Frederickson, The Dixiecrat Revolt and the End of the Solid South, 1932-1968 (2001) p. 238.
    • ^ Perman (2009) part 4
    • ^ Glenn Feldman, "Southern Disillusionment with the Democratic Party: Cultural Conformity and 'the Great Melding' of Racial and Economic Conservatism in Alabama during World War II," Journal of American Studies Aug 2009, Vol. 43 Issue 2, p199-130
    • ^ Simon Topping, "'Never Argue with the Gallup Poll': Thomas Dewey, Civil Rights and the Election of 1948," Journal of American Studies 2004 38(2): 179-198
    • ^ J. Barton Starr, "Birmingham and the 'Dixiecrat' Convention of 1948," Alabama Historical Quarterly;; 1970 32(1-2): 23-50
    • ^ a b "Platform of the States Rights Democratic Party, August 14, 1948". Political Party Platforms, Parties Receiving Electoral Votes: 1840-2004. The American Presidency Project. Retrieved January 1, 2012.
    • ^ Glen Jeansonne, Leander Perez: Boss of the Delta (Jackson, MS:University Press of Mississippi, 1977) pp. 185-189.

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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    And so continues the entirely petty, anti-intellectual discussions of racism that constitute discussions of race and racism on DP. Considering that I'm in the midst of reading actual research on racism for a project right now, the ridiculousness of race discussions on DP is even more noticeable than normal.

    Let's sum up this thread: literally one person tweeted literally one prejudiced comment and this is being used as "proof" that liberals can be racist too? O.

    1. No **** liberals can be racist. Anyone who has interacted a large number of people knows that racists have many political leans. Such interaction is much better evidence than literally one tweet by literally one person.

    2. The tweet isn't even racist and it definitely isn't a "racial slur." It's prejudiced.

    I still can believe that literally one tweet made by literally one person deserves its own articles and thread.

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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Things like this and the "national" discussion that follows basically solidify two general things to me....that racists and unthinking hyper partisans come in all shapes, sizes, and colors including Red and Blue.

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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Well looks like we scream racism about Republicans or conservatives in general are showing their true colors...

    WINCHESTER, Kentucky (AP) — Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell lambasted a liberal group on Saturday for criticizing the Asian heritage of his wife, former Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, calling its Twitter messages "racial slurs" and "the ultimate outrage." - http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...Top+Stories%29
    My understanding is that this was a progressive group using Kentuckians' preconceived notions about Asians to paint McConnell in a negative light.

    Ashley Judd condemned it and I agree. It was race-baiting from the left and just as despicable as race-baiting from the right.

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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually I would not consider this racism either. Just stupid. But then again I do not run around calling any one racist on either side.

    And you just admited to doing exactly what I said you where doing, and said you where not doing a few posts ago. It would be nice if more people where actually concerned about race beyond blaming the other side.
    Obviously you don't know the difference between a blanket statement and the comment "to many."

    So no Red. Please point out in my posts where I said anything about racism is restricted to one group. Well here let me point this out...

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    Don't blow smoke up our asses. Why don't you list the real racist sites similar to stormfront...

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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I disagree. It definitely was and is racism and should have been denounced by someone of his stature in the republican party.
    I guess you don't know the difference between "birth certificate" and "race?"
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    I guess you don't know the difference between "birth certificate" and "race?"
    So the birther conspiracy had nothing to do with the fact that Obama's a "black guy with a funny sounding name?" Do you really and honestly believe that he would have had this problem if he was white and his name was "Joe Smith?"


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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So the birther conspiracy had nothing to do with the fact that Obama's a "black guy with a funny sounding name?" Do you really and honestly believe that he would have had this problem if he was white and his name was "Joe Smith?"
    The idea of going after Obama’s otherness dates back to the last presidential election—and to Democrats. Long before Trump started in, Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, recognized this potential vulnerability in Obama and sought to exploit it. In a March 2007 memo to Clinton (that later found its way to me), Penn wrote: “All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared toward showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting it in a new light,” he wrote. “Save it for 2050. It also exposes a very strong weakness for him—his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and his values.” - The Democratic Roots of the Birther Movement - Businessweek
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So the birther conspiracy had nothing to do with the fact that Obama's a "black guy with a funny sounding name?" Do you really and honestly believe that he would have had this problem if he was white and his name was "Joe Smith?"
    No. Then I imagine they'd come up with him spear heading a government conspiracy to create a police state through the death of thousands of americans after "stealing" the presidency. Or they may get wrapped up in his sex life while married. Or they would think he's trying to creat a new world order.

    For the record, I don't think the "birther" thing would've been what grew out of the partisan desire to attack, demonize and illigitimize the other side if he was a black guy named "Joe Smith" either. I think if he was a white guy who was named Barack Obama and had the same history in terms of time spent in foreign countries that the birther thing likely would've manifested itself as well. Would either have perhaps gained as much headway? Probably not, as for SOME people the racial aspect plays in, but I maintain that it's not the foundation and that it's far more than just the color of his skin that plays into it.

    The "foreign sounding" name. A foreign father. Significant time spent abroad in his youth. That time in part occuring in a country with a large muslim population. All those things I believe had just as much impact into the creation of the birther myth as "OMG He's a black guy!"

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    Re: 'Racial slurs' aimed at wife draw McConnell's ire

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    The idea of going after Obama’s otherness dates back to the last presidential election—and to Democrats. Long before Trump started in, Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, recognized this potential vulnerability in Obama and sought to exploit it. In a March 2007 memo to Clinton (that later found its way to me), Penn wrote: “All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared toward showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting it in a new light,” he wrote. “Save it for 2050. It also exposes a very strong weakness for him—his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and his values.” - The Democratic Roots of the Birther Movement - Businessweek
    And suddenly the right decided that they liked Hillary Clinton after all? Seriously, save your BS talking points for someone else. I never said that the Democrats were wonderful and blameless. You're busy constructing a strawman here.

    Do you really and honestly believe that a guy named Joe Smith would have people questioning his birth certificate? Did you demand to see Bush's or Reagan's?


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