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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Source please? I am not familiar with that provision of the florida law.

    Do you know the defination of cut?

    Florida early voting cuts survive
    Chris Cate, a spokesman for the state Division of Elections, said in an email that, "Advocates of Sunday voting should actually favor the new law because it requires a day of Sunday voting, which the previous law did not." The required Sunday voting is about a week and a half before Election Day -- not the final Sunday.

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    whoops screwed up the link the first time...

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If only we had as much concern over electoral fraud, which is rampant, as we do for voter fraud, which shows up about as frequent as the coelacanth does these days, we could reach an accord.
    Well, there are layers of safeguards to prevent electoral fraud, we just take the word of the voter to prevent voter fraud. God forbid someone has to identify themselves to show they're eligible to vote.

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Well, there are layers of safeguards to prevent electoral fraud, we just take the word of the voter to prevent voter fraud. God forbid someone has to identify themselves to show they're eligible to vote.
    Sounds like a testament to the honesty of our citizens as opposed to politicians like Katherine Harris. And if its just up to just taking their word for it... why do people have people been charged with voter fraud then?
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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Sounds like a testament to the honesty of our citizens as opposed to politicians like Katherine Harris.
    Or, it makes nearly impossible to truly gauge how much voter fraud actually occurs since names aren't attached to ballots, just rolls.

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Or, it makes nearly impossible to truly gauge how much voter fraud actually occurs since names aren't attached to ballots, just rolls.
    The Bush administration spent millions investigating voter fraud and...

    After a five-year hunt for voter fraud, the Bush administration's Justice Department came up with little widespread fraud, finding mostly cases of people mistakenly filling out voter registration forms or voting when they didn't know they were ineligible, The New York Times reported in 2007. But none of the cases involved a person voting as someone else.

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    The Bush administration spent millions investigating voter fraud and...

    After a five-year hunt for voter fraud, the Bush administration's Justice Department came up with little widespread fraud, finding mostly cases of people mistakenly filling out voter registration forms or voting when they didn't know they were ineligible, The New York Times reported in 2007. But none of the cases involved a person voting as someone else.

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    if you have an ID requirement, it's pretty tough to commit voter fraud.... if there is no ID requirement, it's just an honor system that stops you from committing it..... and prosecuting it in the unlikely event it is found out?.. pffft... near impossible... no witnesses, no ID on the suspect, the crime is over and done with quickly... yeah, finding out is tough, prosecuting is really really tough.

    in any event, I find the claim of widespread voter fraud to be suspect .. and i find the claims that an ID requirement in an undue burden to be just as suspect.
    i'm firmly in the " I don't give a **** either way" category....i'll vote, even if i have to bear the extraordinary burden of showing an ID.

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post

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    whoops screwed up the link the first time...
    That change was made to **** with the black voters.

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx
    Well, there are layers of safeguards to prevent electoral fraud, we just take the word of the voter to prevent voter fraud. God forbid someone has to identify themselves to show they're eligible to vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla
    if you have an ID requirement, it's pretty tough to commit voter fraud.... if there is no ID requirement, it's just an honor system that stops you from committing it.....
    Why do people keep insisting that if you don't have a photo ID you don't have to show ANY ID?

    I just voted in a special election yesterday. Showed my voter registration card and signed by my name on the voter roll. My registration card was my ID, my signature was my legal affirmation that I was indeed who I represented myself to be. To get a voter registration card, you have to prove who you are and be vetted by the county registrar.


    From the HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT OF 2002

    (i) in the case of an individual who votes in person--

    (I) presents to the appropriate State or local election official a current and valid photo identification;

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    (II) presents to the appropriate State or local election official a copy of a current utility bill,
    bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name
    and address of the voter
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    You can buy a single I.D. and it last you for years if not decades. You don't have to buy one specifically for the election therefore it is not a poll tax.
    It's required to vote, it costs money, therefore voting costs money, therefore it is a poll tax, therefore it is unconstitutional.
    No photo ID lasts "decades."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Expand Voting Right ACT Say A.Young!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's required to vote, it costs money, therefore voting costs money, therefore it is a poll tax, therefore it is unconstitutional.
    No photo ID lasts "decades."
    You need an I.D. to do practically everything else in the world, why on earth would you not need it to vote.

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