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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    The issue is not about whaling. There are other ways they could oppose it - and I think more effectively. The simplest way would be to use an injection harpon to taint a dead whale before hauled in, making it unusable.

    I watched a few of the episodes in the past - and they initially had a black ship with a huge pirate skull and cross bones plus flew a pirate flag. Just for that reason alone, I would think any ship - military or civilian - could blow them out of the water and otherwise open fire on them. Why wouldn't they be declared pirates given they were flying a pirate flag?

    I know if we were out in deep blue water and a vessel came towards us as if to ram and flying a pirate flag, we'd decide if we could outrun it and - if no - unless clearly some silly thing drunks were doing - we'd open fire with everything we have (which is quite a bit when we're deep offshore.)

    The problem is it is run by some wacked out, desperate old man who isn't very smart determined to be a martyr.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    I always thought pirates were after monetary reward. Even modern day pirates, like those near Somalia, do so for ransom. I am fine calling them criminals, but pirate seems like a stretch. Unless we are just going to call all seagoing criminals pirates.

    I have zero problems with the activists interfering in the whale hunts, even if doing so might technically be illegal. I don’t base my moral framework on what laws politicians write. I do, however, have problems with methods that have a likelihood of causing injury or death. Scaring away the whales or keeping your boat between the whale and the whaler, I have no problems with. And quite honestly, I don’t have a problem with doing property damage when that property is used for something like whaling ( I admit that is still illegal but not immoral in by book). However, things like ramming the whaling vessel and other tactics are flat out dangerous and risk human life. That is immoral and I cannot support that.

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    No matter what our court system does, this show will still be horrible.
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    How can they claim to be protecting animals if they all force parrots to sit on their shoulders? ****ing hypocrites.
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    I'm surprised they weren't called "terrorists" instead. Really surprised, actually! I guess there is no real political interest in anti-whaling activists that would justify such a media label.

    I support these whaling groups in spirit but I don't think it's going to change anything. The world won't start holding Japan accountable until we start seeing major fish stocks disappearing forever because Japan is failing to respect seasonal moratoriums on certain species. Going after a whaling ship here and there will not stop the fleet of them.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Japan is almost 99% dependent on the outside world for everything regarding their production. If there were political will to stop them, they would be stopped. There just isn't and ramming ships for your TV show isn't particularly the best way to convince people Japan's practices should be stopped. This is nothing different fundamentally than the Earth Liberation Front burning down buildings and they are considered an eco-terrorist group.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I'm surprised they weren't called "terrorists" instead. Really surprised, actually! I guess there is no real political interest in anti-whaling activists that would justify such a media label.

    I support these whaling groups in spirit but I don't think it's going to change anything. The world won't start holding Japan accountable until we start seeing major fish stocks disappearing forever because Japan is failing to respect seasonal moratoriums on certain species. Going after a whaling ship here and there will not stop the fleet of them.
    They don't have brown skin or wear turbans, so they're not terrists.
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Personally, if the Japanese sent a warship to capture or destroy the "sea shepherd", I couldn't blame them.
    I am surprised they havent sent a warship. I think the US Navy would have been down their already if it was a US flagged ship getting harrassed.
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