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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    There may be a financial implication as well. I don't know the answer to this, but being declared "pirates" seems to me the equivalent of being declared a terrorist organization. Since Americans, by law, are prohibited from providing material support to a terrorist group, could this also mean that any American donating to this organization could be prosecuted and any bank accepting such donations would also be liable?
    That's actually a perplexing question, since a prosecutor would have to decide if it's worth the trouble to jail some hippies who donated a couple bucks to these extremists. It would have to be a very substantial amount of money to get DHS to pursue any legal action. All in all, I think this is just a way to legitimize more severe measures in stopping the Sea Shepherd.
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Be aware that I am not condoning whaling. In point of fact, I consider whaling by the Japanese and others to be inexcusable. It is not needed. However, that does not excuse the tactics that Sea Sheppard employs.

    Also note that the purpose of this is not to allow whaling ships to sink Sea Sheppard ships, but to open them up to lawsuits. With this ruling, the Japanese "research" company can now sue Sea Sheppard(and almost certainly win) and end their activities that way.
    it's a pity that they both can't lose.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    They are pirates and terrorists - by any reasonable definition. That's what they actually did. I don't give a spotted owl's hoot about their noble motivations.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    They are pirates and terrorists - by any reasonable definition. That's what they actually did. I don't give a spotted owl's hoot about their noble motivations.

    "L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs"
    If sea Shepard only stuck to reporting the actions of the whaling fleet there would not be much of a problem. Unfortunatly their confrontations only lead to aggressive reactions from the Japanese, which only leads to escalates the conflict. It truly is a whale war.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What it does it open up the possibility to sue Sea Sheppard. That will discourage them.
    Doesn't it open up the possibility of sinking them? Like, isn't it legal to shoot t pirate ships who attack you?
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Doesn't it open up the possibility of sinking them? Like, isn't it legal to shoot t pirate ships who attack you?
    To the best of my knowledge, no.
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Doesn't it open up the possibility of sinking them? Like, isn't it legal to shoot t pirate ships who attack you?
    I think yes.

    If the Japanese now have "pirates" threatening their safety then why wouldn't they protect themselves ?

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To the best of my knowledge, no.
    I'm pretty sure they can if the pirates initiate an attack and come within a certain distance of the ship.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In one of those stories only I might be interested in: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    What I think is important is the idea that even if you are trying to aide a good cause, but do it illegally, you are still a criminal. Here is the Sea Shepard in action:
    Surprised that there wasn't an anti-anti-whaling ship, on the payroll of the whalers, just patrolling to ram the anti-whaling ship. Maybe they could paint it like Mr. Crabs or Patrick.....

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What it does it open up the possibility to sue Sea Sheppard. That will discourage them.
    Or, INTERPOL could put several of them in handcuffs and off to the nearest nightmare of a prison they can find.
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