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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    I'm surprised the larger whalers don't fight back. There are private military companies dedicated to protecting ships from pirates.

    IMO any publicity they get from this is only going to hurt their image and possibly even their cause in the eyes of all but a few radical environmentalists.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Please fisher, this is not a politicly biased topic.
    Take out the word liberal and my position is not changed. Those ships should be sunk and the surviving crew members should be arrested and sent to prison. It is a politically biased topic.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The "research" is whaling. It is clear cut, no questions. However, there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Attacking people to protect whales is the wrong way.
    i guess i don't see why they can't just eat another sea animal that isn't in population crisis.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The "research" is whaling. It is clear cut, no questions. However, there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Attacking people to protect whales is the wrong way.
    Not sure if its that one-dimensional. Sometimes "right" is split up among opposing parties. The only provision I would make is that people who choose to enforce their view point "by the sword" is to (1) be prepared to face the consequences of that life style and (2) exhaust all alternative legal options first.
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I'm surprised the larger whalers don't fight back. There are private military companies dedicated to protecting ships from pirates.

    IMO any publicity they get from this is only going to hurt their image and possibly even their cause in the eyes of all but a few radical environmentalists.
    There may be a financial implication as well. I don't know the answer to this, but being declared "pirates" seems to me the equivalent of being declared a terrorist organization. Since Americans, by law, are prohibited from providing material support to a terrorist group, could this also mean that any American donating to this organization could be prosecuted and any bank accepting such donations would also be liable?

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In one of those stories only I might be interested in: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)



    What I think is important is the idea that even if you are trying to aide a good cause, but do it illegally, you are still a criminal. Here is the Sea Shepard in action:

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    Trying to save whales by intentionally putting other humans at risk is the wrong way to do things...
    I'm surprised they haven't been classified as terrorists, but I suppose a pirate is just a terrorist by sea. It shouldn't be too hard to track them. Use a whaler as bait, and when the Shepherd comes, sink it and take the survivors into custody.
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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In one of those stories only I might be interested in: www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-27/us-court-declares-sea-shepherd-pirates/4543370]US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)[/url]



    What I think is important is the idea that even if you are trying to aide a good cause, but do it illegally, you are still a criminal. Here is the Sea Shepard in action:

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    Trying to save whales by intentionally putting other humans at risk is the wrong way to do things...
    You and I whole heartedly agree Redress.

    I watched whale wars a couple of times and thought to my self " criminals".

    Although I hate whaling it doesn't excuse their actions which are basically terroristic.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i guess i don't see why they can't just eat
    another sea animal that isn't in population crisis.
    I believe they go after " Minke's"...I could be wrong.

    But they're not endangered or threatened.

    Actually because of education and groups who expose the trade of whaling allot of their species are coming back.

    I not saying I condone it, but I think the whales they hunt are not in danger.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    There may be a financial implication as well. I don't know the answer to this, but being declared "pirates" seems to me the equivalent of being declared a terrorist organization. Since Americans, by law, are prohibited from providing material support to a terrorist group, could this also mean that any American donating to this organization could be prosecuted and any bank accepting such donations would also be liable?
    That seems likely, and as an added bonus donors would be eligible for the exclusive no fly list. Maybe their pirate friends could provide transportation for longer trips.

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    Re: US court declares Sea Shepherd pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i guess i don't see why they can't just eat another sea animal that isn't in population crisis.
    Be aware that I am not condoning whaling. In point of fact, I consider whaling by the Japanese and others to be inexcusable. It is not needed. However, that does not excuse the tactics that Sea Sheppard employs.

    Also note that the purpose of this is not to allow whaling ships to sink Sea Sheppard ships, but to open them up to lawsuits. With this ruling, the Japanese "research" company can now sue Sea Sheppard(and almost certainly win) and end their activities that way.
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