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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    From Kathleen Parker/WaPo:

    This is no tempest in a teapot but rather the leak in the dike. Drip by drip, the Obama administration has demonstrated its intolerance for dissent and its contempt for any who stray from the White House script. Yes, all administrations are sensitive to criticism, and all push back when such criticism is deemed unfair or inaccurate. But no president since Richard Nixon has demonstrated such overt contempt for the messenger. And, thanks to technological advances in social media, Obama has been able to bypass traditional watchdogs as no other president has.

    More to the point, the Obama White House is, to put it politely, fudging as it tries to place the onus of the sequester on Congress. And, as has become customary, officials are using the Woodward spat to distract attention. As Woodward put it: “This is the old trick . . . of making the press . . . the issue, rather than what the White House has done here.”

    Killing the messenger is a time-honored method of controlling the message, but we have already spilled that blood. And the First Amendment’s protection of a free press, the purpose of which is to check power and constrain government’s ability to dictate the lives of private citizens, was no accident.

    Kathleen Parker: The Obama White House ‘threat’ to Bob Woodward matters - The Washington Post

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    This backfired a bit on Woodward, didn't it?

    I liked his book, but if that email is what he construes as a threat, it makes me question his conclusions regarding any of his observations. I probably won't be buying another of his books.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    This is an interesting read.

    Seems Bob Woodward has jumped the shark, not unlike Dan Rather, no cub reporter himself, and his overreach.

    Where I come from men must be made of sterner stuff. That was no threat. Especially when Bob responds all sweet and nice to it. Seems to me if someone gets threatened and they feel they have some stature the response isn't to tuck tail and give a courtesy butt lick.

    Now the partisan hacks on the right are trying to say Lanny Davis was threatened. Actually Lanny claims an editor claims to have been threatened by an unnamed source. No record of this act, refuses to name the person who threatened this editor.

    The Ron Fournier story is even more bizarre, he claims a series of hostile conversations, phone and E-mail, occurred yet didn't record any of them. He also doesn't name the person who threatened him.

    Lots of here say with no proof. Seems to me if some one threatened me I'd be quite upfront about who they are. Why are Mr. Davis and Fournier refusing to name the person they allege threatened them?

    Something to ponder.

    Now what was this 'threat'? As best anyone is willing to admit the 'threat' is to restrict access to the White House and the press area...

    Now let me try and remember.... who was it that was quite pointed about using access as a lever against unfavorable press....

    Seems I recall the BushII Administration using that 'threat' during the Iraq debacle.

    But I'd say Mr. Woodward has gone a 'revelation' too far, and Mr Davis and Fournier are just trying to tag along.

    Name the guy who threatened you or go home.

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    This is an interesting read.

    Seems Bob Woodward has jumped the shark, not unlike Dan Rather, no cub reporter himself, and his overreach.

    Where I come from men must be made of sterner stuff. That was no threat. Especially when Bob responds all sweet and nice to it. Seems to me if someone gets threatened and they feel they have some stature the response isn't to tuck tail and give a courtesy butt lick.

    Now the partisan hacks on the right are trying to say Lanny Davis was threatened. Actually Lanny claims an editor claims to have been threatened by an unnamed source. No record of this act, refuses to name the person who threatened this editor.

    The Ron Fournier story is even more bizarre, he claims a series of hostile conversations, phone and E-mail, occurred yet didn't record any of them. He also doesn't name the person who threatened him.

    Lots of here say with no proof. Seems to me if some one threatened me I'd be quite upfront about who they are. Why are Mr. Davis and Fournier refusing to name the person they allege threatened them?

    Something to ponder.

    Now what was this 'threat'? As best anyone is willing to admit the 'threat' is to restrict access to the White House and the press area...

    Now let me try and remember.... who was it that was quite pointed about using access as a lever against unfavorable press....

    Seems I recall the BushII Administration using that 'threat' during the Iraq debacle.

    But I'd say Mr. Woodward has gone a 'revelation' too far, and Mr Davis and Fournier are just trying to tag along.

    Name the guy who threatened you or go home.
    Why are you going on about Davis and Fournier? And Bush??? Jezuz, dude...he's been out of the picture for over 4 years. How long you going to drag him around? They all really have nothing to do with this story and the fact is...Woodward DID name the person who threatened him.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Why are you going on about Davis and Fournier? And Bush??? Jezuz, dude...he's been out of the picture for over 4 years. How long you going to drag him around? They all really have nothing to do with this story and the fact is...Woodward DID name the person who threatened him.
    Have you not read the hyper partisan 'conservative' whine? THEY are going on about those two as 'proof' of a vast Obama knock down of the 4th estate.

    Woodward did but these other two hacks have not. You really peel your onion don't you?

    So BushII's actions are now ancient history and we should ignore what he did?

    PLEASE remember that the next appeasement/Hilter comparison made by the partisan 'conservatives' over whatever whine fest they wish to roll around in.

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Have you not read the hyper partisan 'conservative' whine? THEY are going on about those two as 'proof' of a vast Obama knock down of the 4th estate.

    Woodward did but these other two hacks have not. You really peel your onion don't you?

    So BushII's actions are now ancient history and we should ignore what he did?

    PLEASE remember that the next appeasement/Hilter comparison made by the partisan 'conservatives' over whatever whine fest they wish to roll around in.
    Oh, excuse me...but I generally go with the story...not what every tom, dick and harry SAYS about the story.

    But hey...you go right ahead and bring up every other person who has said something about this issue...and even some who haven't (I mean, seriously? You are going to bring up Hitler??)...in your attempt to paint Woodward in a bad light.

    I'll stick to the relevant facts.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Less than 3%...just more than 3%...the difference is negligible.


    Whatever.

    Anyone can make a mistake.

    A real man admits his mistakes, apologizes and moves on.

    Others have different ways of dealing with their mistakes.

    I won't be wasting any more time with you.

    You're not the kind of person that I care to associate with.

    Believe what you want to believe.

    Won't cost me a nickle.

    Have a nice day, and a long wonderful life.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Whatever.

    I won't be wasting any more time with you.

    Believe what you want to believe.

    Won't cost me a nickle.
    LOL!!!

    Ok, dude.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No...Bob Woodward sees a threat...and yes, Obama scraped out a win in terms of the popular vote.

    Do you dispute any of that?
    Only the crap that isn't true, you know, the part about scraping out a win. President Obama received over 9,000,000 more popular vote and won the electoral vote 365 - 173. I hardly call that scraping out a win.

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No...Bob Woodward sees a threat...and yes, Obama scraped out a win in terms of the popular vote.

    Do you dispute any of that?
    Scraped out a win with the popular vote? Really?

    Final 2012 Presidential Election Electoral and Popular Vote

    Now, if a six million vote victory is 'scraping out' a popular vote win to you, what would you call the results of the popular vote between Al Gore and George Bush in 2000?
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