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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Peter... this is you:

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    I know, but if everyone is silent, then the extremes of both sides think they are actually the "vocal majority" instead of "a screaming at the top of their lungs minority".
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    No, the problem is the warped view some conservatives and republicans have about Liberals. You don't have to be a socialist or a social democrat to be a liberal, some are, most are not.
    Correction... most are socialists.

    Their elected officials govern like socialists.

    There was a test not too long ago... Obamakare... and the socialists showed their true colors.

    These socialists abandon their socialist line only for political expediency... here I'll cite Iraq War II. These socialist pricks voted to send troops to war, and then in the troops hour of need they stabbed them in the back. That's our democrat/socialist party. They take the most important vote an elected official could make, sending troops to war, and use it for political ends... TWICE! Like socialists... their honesty and morals are more than suspect.

    What do you call a party that cannot cut government... that just keeps expanding it... a party unable to cut any fat from the government swine? A party that spends, and spends and spends on social engineering?

    Socialists... and those who consistently support socialist legislation can only be called on thing... Socialists.

    But no... the fact they're swimming in socialism... that's not a socialist lean.

    I love it when socialists... those who embrace all manner of socialist legislation vehemently deny being socialists... like it's a dirty word.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Lie? I'm going to go with complete ignorance.
    1. You made the claim... now I'll ask you again... WHAT LIE?

    2. Must have been a good day for you... you elevated your discussion about the opposition beyond penis size! You don't seem intelligent enough to be a MD... so it really begs the question...

    How have you gained so much detailed information about le penis?
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I know, but if everyone is silent, then the extremes of both sides think they are actually the "vocal majority" instead of "a screaming at the top of their lungs minority".
    Yeah... I'm fully guilty of screaming at these brick walls as well.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    1. You made the claim... now I'll ask you again... WHAT LIE?

    2. Must have been a good day for you... you elevated your discussion about the opposition beyond penis size! You don't seem intelligent enough to be a MD... so it really begs the question...

    How have you gained so much detailed information about le penis?

    Don't know what "LIE" you are are talking about. Please direct me to where I made that claim so that I can refresh my memory.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Correction... most are socialists.

    Their elected officials govern like socialists.

    There was a test not too long ago... Obamakare... and the socialists showed their true colors.

    These socialists abandon their socialist line only for political expediency... here I'll cite Iraq War II. These socialist pricks voted to send troops to war, and then in the troops hour of need they stabbed them in the back. That's our democrat/socialist party. They take the most important vote an elected official could make, sending troops to war, and use it for political ends... TWICE! Like socialists... their honesty and morals are more than suspect.

    What do you call a party that cannot cut government... that just keeps expanding it... a party unable to cut any fat from the government swine? A party that spends, and spends and spends on social engineering?

    Socialists... and those who consistently support socialist legislation can only be called on thing... Socialists.

    But no... the fact they're swimming in socialism... that's not a socialist lean.

    I love it when socialists... those who embrace all manner of socialist legislation vehemently deny being socialists... like it's a dirty word.
    Still misrepresenting what a socialist is I see. Having social programs is not being a socialist. So in most senses of the word socialist, democrats are not socialists. They are less selfish capitalists (or capitalists with an actual heart).

    Obamacare is not a socialist program, it is mostly the same program that republican governor Romney initiated. Liberals want to have other priorities than conservatives have, that is not socialism.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Still misrepresenting what a socialist is I see. Having social programs is not being a socialist. So in most senses of the word socialist, democrats are not socialists. They are less selfish capitalists (or capitalists with an actual heart).

    Obamacare is not a socialist program, it is mostly the same program that republican governor Romney initiated. Liberals want to have other priorities than conservatives have, that is not socialism.
    Zimmer is pretty lost when it comes to socialism.

    Essentially for Conservatives like him, Socialism simply boils down to "things I don't like, actual definitions be damned".

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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Still misrepresenting what a socialist is I see. Having social programs is not being a socialist. So in most senses of the word socialist, democrats are not socialists. They are less selfish capitalists (or capitalists with an actual heart).
    King of the Pretzel Brigade. Let's see... when you have folks supporting socialist legislation, begging more of it, voting for folks who implement it, and act in a rabid and wailing manner when some socialists schemes are cut... these people are not socialists. No... they are free market Conservative Republicans.

    No, no, no... as a great mentor of Barack Obama said.

    You see... when you support, vote for, foment and defend socialism... Guess what? You are a socialist.

    I know many so-called Progressives, Independents and Moderates (as well as Socialists masquerading as Democrats) don't like to be identified for what they support, or the volumes of socialist supporting words they type here... but... tough darts. You can lie and fool yourself... but sorry... I participate not in that type of dementia.

    Obamacare is not a socialist program, it is mostly the same program that republican governor Romney initiated. Liberals want to have other priorities than conservatives have, that is not socialism.
    1. Don't like states running socialist schemes... BUT... states can hang themselves. It's not the business of the Feds to. Or is this something new for you?

    2. ROTFLOL... and Milton Friedman... who called our medical system pre-Obama... "Communist" doesn't know what he's talking about either.
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    Re: Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    King of the Pretzel Brigade. Let's see... when you have folks supporting socialist legislation, begging more of it, voting for folks who implement it, and act in a rabid and wailing manner when some socialists schemes are cut... these people are not socialists. No... they are free market Conservative Republicans.
    Voting or having a safety net is not socialist legislation. In a true socialist country you do not really need such a safety net because it molly coddles everything and everybody in such a way that a safety net is not necessary.

    I do not doubt that there are socialist and social democrats who vote for the democrats (with their noses pinched closed because the democratic party and even the liberal caucus are a poor excuse for the policies they would love to see implemented).

    Democrats and most liberals are still capitalists at heart and that is something that a true socialist does not believe is the be all and end all, in their minds the state trumps capitalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    No, no, no... as a great mentor of Barack Obama said.

    You see... when you support, vote for, foment and defend socialism... Guess what? You are a socialist.
    But what you claim is socialism isn't truly socialism. I know socialists and even as a social democrat I do not agree with their points of view. And I know for damned sure that Obama and his democratic party are to the right of me (of course it would be to the left of you but then again, very few people will be to the right of you, or at least that is what your posts suggest).

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I know many so-called Progressives, Independents and Moderates (as well as Socialists masquerading as Democrats) don't like to be identified for what they support, or the volumes of socialist supporting words they type here... but... tough darts. You can lie and fool yourself... but sorry... I participate not in that type of dementia.
    In a party with only 2 major parties, there is very little actual choice. You choose the asshole to the middle of the political scales and you vote democrat or you vote for the asshole who is far more to the right of the other big party and you vote republican.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    1. Don't like states running socialist schemes... BUT... states can hang themselves. It's not the business of the Feds to. Or is this something new for you?

    2. ROTFLOL... and Milton Friedman... who called our medical system pre-Obama... "Communist" doesn't know what he's talking about either.
    1. No, it is not new for me. But this still does not make Obama/Romney care socialist.

    2. No, most likely he did not. Obamacare is run by commercial insurers not by a state one. Hospitals, doctors, nurses, etc. etc. etc. can do their jobs as capitalistic ventures for the making of profit. In a socialist medical system all aspects of that system would be run by the government, private insurers would not exist only state insurers, commercial hospitals etc. would not exist.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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