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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

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    What's illegal about it?

    Simple, it's against the law
    Show me the law prohibiting the state from booting someone out of thier territory.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Show me the law prohibiting the state from booting someone out of thier territory.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    What part of the Constitution are you looking at? I've read it several times and I've not once seen where it says that the States will not be allowed to kick people out of their territories.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What part of the Constitution are you looking at? I've read it several times and I've not once seen where it says that the States will not be allowed to kick people out of their territories.
    The power to regulate immigration is reserved to the federal govt
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

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    The power to regulate immigration is reserved to the federal govt
    Are you refering to Article 8 section 4..."To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;"

    1: That has to do with naturalization. Nothing in there denying the states the ability to kick people out of their territory.

    2: By current law all illegal aliens, when caught must be deported at the end of their time served, if any. So if ANYONE is breaking the law it is the Federal government. And if the Federal government will not uphold the law then it falls to the individual states to do so.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Are you refering to Article 8 section 4..."To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;"

    1: That has to do with naturalization. Nothing in there denying the states the ability to kick people out of their territory.
    Again, it is a well established fact that the constitution reserves the power to regulate immigration to the federal govt. Therefore, the states cannot regulate immigration

    2: By current law all illegal aliens, when caught must be deported at the end of their time served, if any. So if ANYONE is breaking the law it is the Federal government. And if the Federal government will not uphold the law then it falls to the individual states to do so.
    Whether or not the feds are breaking the law is irrelevant. What matters is that even if they are breaking the law, that does not mean that the states now have the power to regulate immigration.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Again, it is a well established fact that the constitution reserves the power to regulate immigration to the federal govt. Therefore, the states cannot regulate immigration
    They cannot regulate immigration into the country. No where does it say that the individual states cannot kick people out of their state.

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    Whether or not the feds are breaking the law is irrelevant. What matters is that even if they are breaking the law, that does not mean that the states now have the power to regulate immigration.
    Ah but it is not regulating immigration. It is enforcing current immigration laws.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    Not sure why you're showing us this? The only parts that were scrubbed from SB 1070 were the parts where Arizona tried to make it a state crime regarding not carrying documents showing their legal ability to be in the US, arrests without warrants in some situations, and applying for work without federal authorization. Naturally making a federal crime regarding immigration a state crime would violate the supremacy clause. But nothing else about SB 1070 was ruled against because much of it is based on federal law and are just ways in which the state can help federal officials with upholding the federal laws on immigration.

    If anything this actually helps me. If that was your intent then thanks.
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    Re: Release of about 300 illegal immigrants from federal custody in Arizona stirs up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not sure why you're showing us this? The only parts that were scrubbed from SB 1070 were the parts where Arizona tried to make it a state crime regarding not carrying documents showing their legal ability to be in the US, arrests without warrants in some situations, and applying for work without federal authorization. Naturally making a federal crime regarding immigration a state crime would violate the supremacy clause. But nothing else about SB 1070 was ruled against because much of it is based on federal law and are just ways in which the state can help federal officials with upholding the federal laws on immigration.

    If anything this actually helps me. If that was your intent then thanks.
    Yea, they deleted the effective portion of the law.
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