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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    So the e-mail comes out and it's not the "threat" Bob Woodward comes out claiming it was:

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    1. He makes an apology. Good start to a threat I always say.
    2. Tells him he's not focusing properly. Again, good lead up to a threat.
    3. Big bad threat boiled down: Your opinion is wrong, and you'll be proven wrong eventually.

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    I was waiting for: We'll ruin your journalism career or you'll never work in this town again!

    I guess it was too much to hope for. Once again, much ado about nothing. The fact that Bob Woodward himself replied with the long version of 'it's cool dude', pretty much destroys any credibility the OP and Woodward had on calling the e-mail a threat.
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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So the e-mail comes out and it's not the "threat" Bob Woodward comes out claiming it was:



    1. He makes an apology. Good start to a threat I always say.
    2. Tells him he's not focusing properly. Again, good lead up to a threat.
    3. Big bad threat boiled down: Your opinion is wrong, and you'll be proven wrong eventually.

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    I was waiting for: We'll ruin your journalism career or you'll never work in this town again!

    I guess it was too much to hope for. Once again, much ado about nothing. The fact that Bob Woodward himself replied with the long version of 'it's cool dude', pretty much destroys any credibility the OP and Woodward had on calling the e-mail a threat.
    Looks like Stalin himself would pen. This Whitehouse is a group of tyrants!
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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    What a small, limp, sad little presidency this is.

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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another unnamed official said it was Gene Sperling, not Bob Woodward.
    Woodward is not known for naming his sources.... good reporters protect their sources so they can maintain access.
    you're making a silly argument here.


    FWIW, I don't think Bob was "threatened" per say... I think "pressured" is a bit more accurate of a term...every administration tries to pressure and manipulate the press.

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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Looks like Stalin himself would pen. This Whitehouse is a group of tyrants!
    I seriously was hoping to be wrong on this. However, I stated that AT BEST, this was a case of Bob Woodward hyping up an e-mail and at worst a lie. I've seen more threatening comments on Debate Politics. I mean we've had people here advocate the killing of cops, blacks, women, rape, child abuse and it's all been X'ed off as nothing more than rants by ****ed up people on the internet. This just seems like an exchange between two guys who disagree during their 9-5s and then have a beer after work.
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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Woodward is not known for naming his sources.... good reporters protect their sources so they can maintain access.
    you're making a silly argument here.
    Good for him. However in the age of the internet, sources are important. Otherwise your word is worth nothing.

    FWIW, I don't think Bob was "threatened" per say... I think "pressured" is a bit more accurate of a term...every administration tries to pressure and manipulate the press.
    And I don't think he was pressured or threatened. Having now read the e-mails, I think he was told he'd be wrong on his opinion eventually. Hardly the kind of behaviour you'd call threatening or pressuring. The guy was told he was wrong and would be proven wrong. That's nothing out of the norm in Washington. Hardly the threat Woodward & right wing posters on this board made it out to be.
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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The bolded really isn't the issue at all. The issue is accusations of a WH rep threatening a journalist, and a serious journalist at that. If it were some Fox News bimbo who made the claim, I'd be skeptical. With Woodward making it, I'm inclined to believe him. He has credibility and a long history of journalistic integrity.
    eggzactly.

    maybe these folks are jsut too young to have experienced all these decades of Woodward ( and Bernstein) doing their thing...
    I don't always agree with Woodwards conclusions... but I don't doubt his credibility

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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    eggzactly.

    maybe these folks are jsut too young to have experienced all these decades of Woodward ( and Bernstein) doing their thing...
    I don't always agree with Woodwards conclusions... but I don't doubt his credibility
    Don't doubt it. Read the e-mails which have been released. Anyone who's not an idiot would realize that what was written and Bob Woodward's reply to it debunk any attempt to label it as a threat.
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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good for him. However in the age of the internet, sources are important. Otherwise your word is worth nothing.



    And I don't think he was pressured or threatened. Having now read the e-mails, I think he was told he'd be wrong on his opinion eventually. Hardly the kind of behaviour you'd call threatening or pressuring. The guy was told he was wrong and would be proven wrong. That's nothing out of the norm in Washington. Hardly the threat Woodward & right wing posters on this board made it out to be.
    well, don't hold your breathe waiting for sources to be named by good reporters....they like to protect their sources as to maintain access.

    Woodward has credibility... is absurd to argue his word means nothing.... absolutely absurd.


    of course he's being pressured... being yelled at for 30 minutes by a white house aide is the epitome of "being pressured".

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    Re: White House threatens Bob Woodward

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So the e-mail comes out and it's not the "threat" Bob Woodward comes out claiming it was:



    1. He makes an apology. Good start to a threat I always say.
    2. Tells him he's not focusing properly. Again, good lead up to a threat.
    3. Big bad threat boiled down: Your opinion is wrong, and you'll be proven wrong eventually.

    -------

    I was waiting for: We'll ruin your journalism career or you'll never work in this town again!

    I guess it was too much to hope for. Once again, much ado about nothing. The fact that Bob Woodward himself replied with the long version of 'it's cool dude', pretty much destroys any credibility the OP and Woodward had on calling the e-mail a threat.
    You plan on taking Reuters to task now for possibly mucking up the story?
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