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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I am watching this very closely as it has me worried. If this goes through and Section 5 is struck down, then that will allow for Republican politicians to do away with early voting, put up insane voter ID laws, and the like. Not only will that hurt black people, it will hurt other racial minorities, poor people, and students.
    Well, there's a simple remedy. Congress can amend the act to end the unequal apllication and make preclearance the law of the land.

    And ID laws don't affect anyone negatively but the bone stupid and the illegal voter.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    This sins of the father garbage is completely un-american; more importantly, it's completely unconstitutional. sadly, I have little faith in the court that claims the government can force anyone to buy anything at any time ever coming down on the side of the constitution.

    Being on the side of the constitution is not always the right place to be if you support equal rights and a level playing field.

    Did you know that a while back the U.S. Constitution permitted slavery and denied women the vote?



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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, that means that your ok with the ghetto system that is created and made legal by Section 5 of the Civil Rights Act? Racial gerrymandering, basically? Election rigging?

    Personally, I'm not ok with it.

    As I understand it, Justice Scalia's position is that it's wrong to stop Black people from voting because they're Black, but OK to stop them from voting because they're Democrats.



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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    . It is easy to make demorat districts, simply load them with minorities, it is not quite so easy to do the same for republicants.


    Time and demographic change will eventually take care of that problem.

    Wait and see.



    No one can stop time and/or change.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Obviously any change in Texas voting law is assumed to be discriminatory unless proven otherwise, it has to be "precleared" and tus judges rather than our elected officials then get to make the district boundary lines. What goes unsaid is that reace and ethnicity are the primary factors used in that alleged "colorblind" and "outside" decision.


    It kind of sounds like how it would be if you had to prove yourself innocent instead of the state having to prove you guilty.

    Sounds to me like maybe the law is upside down.

    The Feds should have to prove that a change in the law discriminates.

    I totally support protection of everyone's right to vote.

    But the laws need to be fair and not place an undue burden on anyone.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Fair and balanced; demorats and republicants - neither capitalized for proper disrespect.


    I'm down with that.

    Give both parties the disrespect that they deserve.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    US Constitution Article I Section IV

    The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators.

    So... the question is, why is the SCOTUS legislating from the bench when the Constitution right there states that its a matter of congress to decide?


    Maybe I'm missing something, but it sure does sounds like legislating from the bench to me.

    Maybe we need a little Constitutional Amendment to stop that kind of thing.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    Congress would have to do it for all states, not just specific ones they arbitrarily select. People can't be treated differently just because they reside in different states.


    Maybe they can't be, but it kind of looks like they are being treated differently now.

    I'm beginning to think that maybe, just maybe, that is neither right or fair.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It is possible that this could fall under the equal protection clause.


    Maybe that will be mentioned in the Court's decision.

    I'm totally down with equal rights for everyone.



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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Time and demographic change will eventually take care of that problem.

    Wait and see.

    No one can stop time and/or change.
    Quite true, one needs only to look at Detriot, MI.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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