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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    As long as there is gerrymandering, jury rigging the results of elections way before the first vote is cast, this nation will never have fair elections. I think gerrymandering should also be looked at by the SCOTUS. I will add another item to this discussion, the minority majority district's. These districts actually help the Republicans as the majority of minorities who normally vote for democrats can all be placed into one district leaving the rest more white and more republican than what would be if you split up minorities around the state. Here in Georgia putting most of the blacks into 4 districts guarentees the election of 4 black Democrats, that leaves 9 other districts which only one white democrat was elected along with 8 white republicans. If John Barrow runs for the senate here in Georgia in 2014, look for the republicans to pick up his seat. I would say having 9 out of 13 house seats in republicans hands, I am sure they are more than willing to let the 4 majority black districts stand.
    Yep. That is the really sad part, fairness would be seen as unfair. These "affirmative action" districts, that make it a shoe-in for minority (demorat?) candidates, also make it more difficult for demorats to win in the others. If the districts were more "fair" there would be far, far fewer minority candidates that could get elected. It is easy to make demorat districts, simply load them with minorities, it is not quite so easy to do the same for republicants.
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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

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    If we're going to keep Preclearance, it needs to apply to everyone, not just select states and counties. Things have changed and I don't see how theses select Southern areas are so much more likely to attempt discriminatory voting practices that they should be singled out.
    Affirmative action districts should be illegal EVERYWHERE. While they are seen as "good" to ensure the election of minority candidates they are also likely to produce only demorats. That is the clever little "secret" about keeping these districts alive and well - they seriously increase the number of demorats in some very red states.
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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    The SCOTUS gave a backhanded warning to Congress before that the VRA may need updating. I expect them to strike the formula provisions and force Congress to take it up again to save the law (which should be saved and updated)

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

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    This sins of the father garbage is completely un-american; more importantly, it's completely unconstitutional. sadly, I have little faith in the court that claims the government can force anyone to buy anything at any time ever coming down on the side of the constitution.
    I'm leery of a court that claims anyone can buy anything pertaining to promoting aspects of government at anytime (citizens united). So, looks like we're even.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm leery of a court that claims anyone can buy anything pertaining to promoting aspects of government at anytime (citizens united). So, looks like we're even.
    Not really.

    You want an amendment, while I just want them to read the God damn thing they are sworn to protect.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Affirmative action districts should be illegal EVERYWHERE. While they are seen as "good" to ensure the election of minority candidates they are also likely to produce only demorats. That is the clever little "secret" about keeping these districts alive and well - they seriously increase the number of demorats in some very red states.
    I don't think the VRA is a type of affirmative action. Affirmative action tends to be proactive attempts to alter and increase certain demographics, such as outreach, programs, quotas, etc. The VRA only prevents policies or laws that discriminate, it's more reactive and in my opinion not affirmative action.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. That is the really sad part, fairness would be seen as unfair. These "affirmative action" districts, that make it a shoe-in for minority (demorat?) candidates, also make it more difficult for demorats to win in the others. If the districts were more "fair" there would be far, far fewer minority candidates that could get elected. It is easy to make demorat districts, simply load them with minorities, it is not quite so easy to do the same for republicants.
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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    For the VRA to have a future, IMO, it'll have to be made to apply equally to all.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I don't think the VRA is a type of affirmative action. Affirmative action tends to be proactive attempts to alter and increase certain demographics, such as outreach, programs, quotas, etc. The VRA only prevents policies or laws that discriminate, it's more reactive and in my opinion not affirmative action.
    Not exactly. There are formulas that require minority majority districts within states. Which type of districts and how many were based on a formula 40 years old.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    That was a result of a deal between the dems and the GOP much to the chagrin of suburban liberals who found themselves in red districts. I believe Mother Jones referred to the deal as one of the most unholy political alliances ever in politics, or something along those lines.
    I understand. But this, the minority majority districts really help the Republicans. When a party can receive 53-54% of the vote and yet win 70% of all congressional districts, who can argue with the results.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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