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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    This is why I believe that no criminal should be held for more than ten years unless the govt can show that they would commit another crime once they're released. Why should those prisoners have to jump through hoops to be free when others do not. Simply assuming that they will commit another crime is not justifiable.
    I don't know about some arbitrary 10 year interval, but I certainly agree that prisoners should not be continuously jailed simply because its politically expedient.

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think Republican efforts regarding voter ID laws are sufficient proof the law is still required.

    Yes, let's require ID's to "secure the election." And just by pure coincidence, we'll scale back services at the facilities where you'd get these ID's in heavily minority/Democrat districts. Surely they wont need the office open more than 5 days a year, right? Closing down at 4pm?

    Meanwhile, we'll completely ignore absentee ballots, which result in the majority of actual voter fraud but happen to lean slightly Republican.


    Hmm.

    I wonder why these things are going on.

    Maybe, just maybe, to keep those who some think shouldn't be voting from tilting the election in the wrong direction, eh?



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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    doing away with the VRA does not equate to doing away with voting rights..supporting the act being overturned does not equate to supporting discrimination either.


    It may not equate to or support those things, but it will allow them to happen.

    To me that's a distinction without a difference.

    Kind of like how some people (Rand Paul for example.) are on record as supporting leaving who gets served in restaurants totally up to the owners. Does that make them racists? No, but it allows others to practice their racism with zero consequences.



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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It may not equate to or support those things, but it will allow them to happen.

    To me that's a distinction without a difference.

    Kind of like how some people (Rand Paul for example.) are on record as supporting leaving who gets served in restaurants totally up to the owners. Does that make them racists? No, but it allows others to practice their racism with zero consequence



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    Technically ( btw minority here) isn't it someone's right to discriminate.it is a form of expression. If the act isn't violent or violates their rights(could always go to another restaurant) why shouldn't a owner say who and who's not allowed in their stores.....btw i will stand on record saying racism will end in 10 or 20 years.
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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As I understand it, Justice Scalia's position is that it's wrong to stop Black people from voting because they're Black, but OK to stop them from voting because they're Democrats.



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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It may not equate to or support those things, but it will allow them to happen.

    To me that's a distinction without a difference.

    Kind of like how some people (Rand Paul for example.) are on record as supporting leaving who gets served in restaurants totally up to the owners. Does that make them racists? No, but it allows others to practice their racism with zero consequences.
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    Paul's idea would be much more effective than legislating it. Consider given the current prevalence of folks against racism if a restaurant did 'practice their racism'. Presumably this information would infiltrate throughout the community promoting the ostrization of the establishment and reducing there revenue...ultimately to the point of closure disabling the ability to 'practice their racism' AND strengthening the ones who do not.
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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It may not equate to or support those things, but it will allow them to happen.

    To me that's a distinction without a difference.

    Kind of like how some people (Rand Paul for example.) are on record as supporting leaving who gets served in restaurants totally up to the owners. Does that make them racists? No, but it allows others to practice their racism with zero consequences.



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    really? it allows them to happen?....

    is the 15th amendment still in effect?

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    As I understand it, Justice Scalia's position is that it's wrong to stop Black people from voting because they're Black, but OK to stop them from voting because they're Democrats.



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    I'd love for you to explain how you reached that "understanding"....it wasn't based on anything Scalia has said or done, so i'm wondering where that "understanding" came from

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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Unless those DMV locations were established with or after the voter ID legislation, I don't see how they could possibly be connected. Overall population is far more likely.
    All they need is for the voter ID laws to slightly disproportionately affect people who vote blue.
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    Re: Supreme Court raises doubts about Voting Rights Act

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    . So if the minority voters can neither be split up, nor strewn together, then what exactly should we do with them?

    How about if we just let them and everyone else in the USA live wherever they want to live and eliminate gerrymandering for any purpose?

    What's wrong with that idea?



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