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Perhaps having a curriculum and following it with any success are two separate issues.
What we do know is that the USA is dropping according to international standards while countries we once thought of as 'third world' are advancing. I doubt that Christian schools are contributing a great deal to this decline.Best Education In The World: Finland, South Korea Top Country Rankings, U.S. Rated Average
Actually you don't see or you wouldn't have asked such a question. In fact a Christian school fits in well with the first amendment.
Where do you think any changes need be made?
No question she broke the contract; I don't think that's what's in question. But do we really want to let employers dictate our private lives? Do they have a right to ask employees to sign such a ridiculous contract promising things that have nothing to do with the ability to perform the job well?
She could have worked somewhere else! Don't employers have a right to hire whomever they want?
If I have money burning a hole in my pocket, and I want to start a business and hire somebody, shouldn't I get to spend my money the way I want, and hire whomever I want?
If not, maybe I'd be better off just keeping my money.
If you have discriminatory hiring practices, the law says you don't get to hire whoever you want. I would say it is discriminatory to only hire Christians or those who promise to live by Christian morals when not at work.
If you have discriminatory hiring practices, the law says you don't get to hire whoever you want. I would say it is discriminatory to only hire Christians or those who promise to live by Christian morals when not at work.
Even if the employee signed a contract prohibiting it?Correct. Banning premarital sex out of the workplace probably won't hold water.
Does anyone know anyone who would allow anyone else to "regulate" their sex life ?........................
Correct. Banning premarital sex out of the workplace probably won't hold water.
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that's the intent of the anti-discrimination laws we have on the books.
If all they wanted to do was fire people for having pre-marital sex, I think that's legal.
What raised an eyebrow to me was the ban on hiring homosexuals. I don't think that one will fly.
I think you can discriminate against a behavior - such as premarital sex. I don't think you can discriminate against something you're either born with or can't change, such as race or gender.
Homosexuality, generally, is considered to be something you're born with... at least I believe that's how the courts would see it. For the school to win, they would have to prove that homosexuality is a choice, which I don't think they could do.
Anyone have a 15 year old daughter?
Well, at least you admit the only "hope" of doing such is with underage children.......................
I agree with you on the homosexuality thing. There's no question that's discriminatory. But this company basically fired a woman for being pregnant. And there is a long standing precedent that that is discrimination also.
In many cases those classes are protected because people fought hard to get laws banning discrimination passed. I think we should also include a broader right to privacy and free expression that would make most off-work activities protected from employment impact.
Religions deserve just enough exemption to fulfill their religious purpose. Certainly a religious group should be allowed to impose special requirements on its leadership and minsiters etc, but if its a large operation employing dozens or more people, such as hospital, it should not be allowed to discriminate with most positions any more than other businesses or organizations can.
RapidAlpaca is correct that anti-discrimination laws usually trump contracts in court. That is why racist neighborhood covenants are no longer enforceable.
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A Christian school is fine with the First Amendment until and unless it becomes a state supported Christian school teaching the Christian belief system. At that point, it violates that amendment, just as a madrassa would do.
The US is not dropping according to any standards. Student achievement is on the rise, and, if you compare apples to apples, middle class to middle class that is, we're on a par with other nations.
If you have been taught the "critical thinking skills" outlined in the standards I've posted, you'll understand that you can't take at face value everything spewed out of rant radio.
I believe that's why the school said they fired her for premarital sex, not for being pregnant. I believe that's why the woman's lawyer emphasized that as well. I think for her to win her case, she would have to show that she was fired for being pregnant, and not for having premarital sex.
It seems that lawyers are always fighting for more rights and freedoms while we wind up having fewer and fewer of them.
Why not let the Christian school alone, let a contract be honored, and allow people get on with their lives.
Christians, Christianity, and Christian institutions are very much legitimate targets in today's world.......................
Don't get 'rant radio' here, Just googled and read the stats.