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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    One could argue that sending kids to a religious school is child abuse. After all, teaching kids about the life and times of Santa Claus would never be considered an acceptable curriculum, but for some reason, teaching kids about the fictitious Jesus Christ is considered acceptable.
    Except that even non-religious scholars agree that Jesus Christ was real and walked this Earth at the time the Bible states He did.


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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I take your point but I don't believe the example is equivalent. If you could guarantee that each child receives the same education as each house receives the same water, then I might agree with you. However, we all know that's not the case. In many jurisdictions, it could be argued, the poorest communities receive the poorest teachers while more affluent neighborhoods get the best. To me, using your water example, that would be like one community getting the same water through old contaminated lead pipes while others get it through clean, copper or plastic piping. It's the same water input, but not the same when it gets to the customer.
    You are correct, education should be provided equally. That is why I feel that school funding per pupil should be equal*, not based on the property values of the local community, which is defacto discriminatory.

    However, in any given school district the tax payers usually pay the same tax rate and should (but not always) get the same quality of education. (In California, this gets more complicated because the property tax rate is not equal for all due to prop. 13, which favors those who have lived in the same house for a long time with a lower tax rate.)


    *or even better, funding per pupil should be higher for schools with children with backgrounds that make education more challenging; such as children in impoverished areas, high crime areas, many students who don't speak English at home, nomadic families (like farm workers) etc.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    You are correct, education should be provided equally. That is why I feel that school funding per pupil should be equal*, not based on the property values of the local community, which is defacto discriminatory.

    *or even better, funding per pupil should be higher for schools with children with backgrounds that make education more challenging; such as children in impoverished areas, high crime areas, many students who don't speak English at home, nomadic families (like farm workers) etc.
    I can't argue with any of that, just wish it was so. Many believe that by providing vouchers, it will give parents the ability to seek out those equal opportunities and not be chained to the circumstances of residence.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I can't argue with any of that, just wish it was so. Many believe that by providing vouchers, it will give parents the ability to seek out those equal opportunities and not be chained to the circumstances of residence.
    I don't recall the reasons given to the parents in DC when the voucher idea was shot down for them, though... `

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I don't recall the reasons given to the parents in DC when the voucher idea was shot down for them, though... `
    The reasons were nonsense, but the cause was teacher union dislike - too many black parents were taking their kids an walking out of local schools and enrolling in successful ones - that was anathema to unionized teachers and those who believe in one size fits all - having teachers judged on the outcomes they produce, as judged by parents, could not be allowed to spread across the country and had to be stopped.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The reasons were nonsense, but the cause was teacher union dislike - too many black parents were taking their kids an walking out of local schools and enrolling in successful ones - that was anathema to unionized teachers and those who believe in one size fits all - having teachers judged on the outcomes they produce, as judged by parents, could not be allowed to spread across the country and had to be stopped.
    And yet we are to believe "It's all about the children," as evidenced by the hysteria on the gun control debate, huh? :

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Well how do they know she had premarital sex? Did they see her do it? Did they check legal records and see if she had quickie wedding? Or check and see if she's a Christian-like surrogate for some poor couple who can't have a baby? Or see if she went to a sperm bank? No. They saw she was pregnant and they fired her, which is illegal. They should lose this case.
    Idk, that's a stretch. How do you know they didn't ask her?

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And yet we are to believe "It's all about the children," as evidenced by the hysteria on the gun control debate, huh? :
    It's always all about control - who controls and who's being controlled. The collective hates independence, nonconformity and uniqueness and all solutions must come from the collective to be valid.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    One could argue that sending kids to a religious school is child abuse. After all, teaching kids about the life and times of Santa Claus would never be considered an acceptable curriculum, but for some reason, teaching kids about the fictitious Jesus Christ is considered acceptable.
    You were taught that Jesus Christ never existed? More tax dollars wasted!

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Idk, that's a stretch. How do you know they didn't ask her?
    Well all the article said was they asked if she was pregnant, and then let her go. These are just questions I'd think her lawyer would be asking them.

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