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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's an interesting bit of history I didn't know.

    Here, we have people who would fund religious schools, but, in general, only of religions they follow or at least approve of. Meanwhile, we have a tradition of separation of church and state that has served us well thus far.

    As for funding education for all children in all schools who gain accreditation from the government regardless of their faith background, why not for schools that teach secular curriculum only and leave the religious education up to the parents and churches?
    I take your point, but many would argue that by forcing people into the secular public system, you are forcing all to the bottom. That may be unfair or fair, depends on your perspective. My point, again, is that if part of the tax base is used to fund education for citizens then all citizens with children should benefit equally from that funding while keeping the choice of schooling a personal and family matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Well, it is and has been for some years now.
    It shouldn't be. But, even so, the Korean restaurant does not operate free of tax burdens like the churches do.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I take your point, but many would argue that by forcing people into the secular public system, you are forcing all to the bottom. That may be unfair or fair, depends on your perspective. My point, again, is that if part of the tax base is used to fund education for citizens then all citizens with children should benefit equally from that funding while keeping the choice of schooling a personal and family matter.
    One could argue that sending kids to a religious school is child abuse. After all, teaching kids about the life and times of Santa Claus would never be considered an acceptable curriculum, but for some reason, teaching kids about the fictitious Jesus Christ is considered acceptable.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I believe that's why the school said they fired her for premarital sex, not for being pregnant. I believe that's why the woman's lawyer emphasized that as well. I think for her to win her case, she would have to show that she was fired for being pregnant, and not for having premarital sex.
    Well how do they know she had premarital sex? Did they see her do it? Did they check legal records and see if she had quickie wedding? Or check and see if she's a Christian-like surrogate for some poor couple who can't have a baby? Or see if she went to a sperm bank? No. They saw she was pregnant and they fired her, which is illegal. They should lose this case.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You most certainly can.
    Then you don't know the slightest thing about US law. In the US an employer can not have you sign away your right to the things I listed, period. If you want to talk about whatever your UK laws are, then state that.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I've not made it through all 57 pages but I tripped across this hyocritical ****...

    But James said she was humiliated after being pulled into her supervisor's office last fall, where she was asked if she was pregnant and then was let go. After James lost her job, she claims the school offered a position to her now-husband, even though they were aware he'd had sex before getting married, too.

    link...

    It's only offensive if a woman has premarital sex. What nonsense.
    Well that's BS.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I take your point, but many would argue that by forcing people into the secular public system, you are forcing all to the bottom. That may be unfair or fair, depends on your perspective. My point, again, is that if part of the tax base is used to fund education for citizens then all citizens with children should benefit equally from that funding while keeping the choice of schooling a personal and family matter.
    Public education can be considered like the water service provided by government. If some people don't like the taste of the water they can go to the regulators and have it fixed if there is a problem. If it is determined that the water is fine and most people like the taste, and some people just don't like the taste subjectively, then very few people would advocate for taxpayer funded vouchers so they can buy bottled water. Most government services work that way, you either accept it, work with your elected representatives to fix it, or you use your own money to access a better service. Giving some people tax payer funded vouchers everytime a minority finds the government provided service lacking is a silly waste of resources and unfairly benefits more prosperous people.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I've not made it through all 57 pages but I tripped across this hyocritical ****...

    But James said she was humiliated after being pulled into her supervisor's office last fall, where she was asked if she was pregnant and then was let go. After James lost her job, she claims the school offered a position to her now-husband, even though they were aware he'd had sex before getting married, too.

    link...

    It's only offensive if a woman has premarital sex. What nonsense.
    I'm guessing the contract doesn't state that you can be fired if they find out you had premarital sex before you were hired. It's not that she was female, it's that she broke the rules. Period.


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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Public education can be considered like the water service provided by government. If some people don't like the taste of the water they can go to the regulators and have it fixed if there is a problem. If it is determined that the water is fine and most people like the taste, and some people just don't like the taste subjectively, then very few people would advocate for taxpayer funded vouchers so they can buy bottled water. Most government services work that way, you either accept it, work with your elected representatives to fix it, or you use your own money to access a better service. Giving some people tax payer funded vouchers everytime a minority finds the government provided service lacking is a silly waste of resources and unfairly benefits more prosperous people.
    I take your point but I don't believe the example is equivalent. If you could guarantee that each child receives the same education as each house receives the same water, then I might agree with you. However, we all know that's not the case. In many jurisdictions, it could be argued, the poorest communities receive the poorest teachers while more affluent neighborhoods get the best. To me, using your water example, that would be like one community getting the same water through old contaminated lead pipes while others get it through clean, copper or plastic piping. It's the same water input, but not the same when it gets to the customer.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    One could argue that sending kids to a religious school is child abuse. After all, teaching kids about the life and times of Santa Claus would never be considered an acceptable curriculum, but for some reason, teaching kids about the fictitious Jesus Christ is considered acceptable.
    You don't need to consistently send your bigoted anti-faith nonsense my way - I got the point of your hatred the first time - as I said before, I'm not a spokesperson or apologist for any religion, not being a religious person myself. However, unlike you, I respect the views and positions of other people, including those who have strong faith beliefs and I respect their right to choose.

    It's funny to me how some believe that a woman should have free choice whether or not to bring a pregnancy to term yet that same woman shouldn't have free choice to send that child to an eductional institution of her choice without financial penalty for that choice.

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