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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    No, we don't have a state religion, but our country was originally founded between sections of the country that had French origins, almost totally Catholic, and English origins, almost totally Protestant. The terms of our original constitution contained provisions that required each to fund education in both public and "separate" schools - separate being Catholic in the English provinces and Protestant in the French province. Over the 150 years of our country, these "constitutional" rights to separate, government funded education have be eroding except in my province, Ontario, where the government in the 80's extended additional funding to Catholic schools making them the equivalent of public schools - this party was defeated in the next election, but the funding has remained. Over 30% of the province is Catholic and although about 50% of the province wants to get rid of government funding for Catholic schools, no political party will move in that direction because of the significant disruption to the systems, because the Catholic schools are considered by many superior, and because it would likely be political suicide. Other provinces have moved away from the two systems, but not all. In fact, in Ontario, one political party ran on a platform of funding all forms of religious schools and although they started out as the party in the lead, they ended up being badly defeated in the election. Religious education and elections definitely don't mix.

    As an aside, the UN has criticized Canada's education system for funding one set of religious schools but not all. I would be in favor of funding education for all children in all schools who gain accreditation from the government regardless of their faith background.
    That's an interesting bit of history I didn't know.

    Here, we have people who would fund religious schools, but, in general, only of religions they follow or at least approve of. Meanwhile, we have a tradition of separation of church and state that has served us well thus far.

    As for funding education for all children in all schools who gain accreditation from the government regardless of their faith background, why not for schools that teach secular curriculum only and leave the religious education up to the parents and churches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I agree with that, but don't think the Wiccans, Muslims, Christians, or anyone else should be allowed to use tax dollars to teach their religious dogmas. Do you?
    The school being discussed is a private school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    The school being discussed is a private school.
    Correct. We already discussed that, and the case was made (not by me) that the school was getting federal funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Correct. We already discussed that, and the case was made (not by me) that the school was getting federal funds.
    It doesn't matter. If she got a copy of the HR manual and agreed to the policy she has no case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    It doesn't matter. If she got a copy of the HR manual and agreed to the policy she has no case.
    agreed.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I agree with that, but don't think the Wiccans, Muslims, Christians, or anyone else should be allowed to use tax dollars to teach their religious dogmas. Do you?
    Dogmas and philosophies can be substantially different. I don't know what the Wiccans would want to teach their children and there is clear evidence that a Muslim education has not advanced its adherents a great deal in this world. Nonetheless it might well be that Mohamed might have something worthwhile to say in his particular philosophy, apart from killing all his enemies, that could be advantageous to students. The introduction of the Golden Rule to the Muslim philosophy would not do them any great harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    It doesn't matter. If she got a copy of the HR manual and agreed to the policy she has no case.
    It does matter. If the HR manual said a married person would not be allowed to have any children or could have only one child, under threat of being fired, we would not even be having this argument. Would we?

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It does matter. If the HR manual said a married person would not be allowed to have any children or could have only one child, under threat of being fired, we would not even be having this argument. Would we?
    Maybe. Did you know that it is legal for ethnic restaurants to only hire people who look like that ethnic group to work as servers? Well it is. And that certainly is racial discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Maybe. Did you know that it is legal for ethnic restaurants to only hire people who look like that ethnic group to work as servers? Well it is. And that certainly is racial discrimination.
    I always wondered about that. No. I did not know this was legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I always wondered about that. No. I did not know this was legal.
    Well, it is and has been for some years now.
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