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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Christians, Christianity, and Christian institutions are very much legitimate targets in today's world.......................
    Good evening, Bonz.

    Whatever happened to the good old "live and let live" thing?

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

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    Easy and forgiving targets is more likely.
    Then I think they all should have thought a little more about involving themselves in the "culture war"..........................

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The First Amendment says nothing about state supported schools, only that the State cannot establish a religion. I don't know what religion this school follows but it is generally accepted that Christianity is a philosophy and various religions grew from this philosophy.
    Christianity with a small c is the philosophy preached by Christ as given in the Bible: Love thy enemy, have charity, etc. Christianity with a capital C is the religious belief that Christ died for our sins.

    It's all well and good to follow Christian philosophy, in fact, the world would be a lot better if people would do so. It's also all well and good to hold the religious belief as well, just as long as it is supported privately and not through the government.

    Most Americans are Christians, so more people support the idea of government money being spent to further it. Put the shoe on the other foot, though. Who would support government funding of a school that teaches kids to pray to Allah five times a day? How about one that teaches Wiccan rituals? If one religion can be supported publicly, then why not any?
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems that lawyers are always fighting for more rights and freedoms while we wind up having fewer and fewer of them.

    Why not let the Christian school alone, let a contract be honored, and allow people get on with their lives.
    The school probably has a legal department, which is why I'm surprised they have a clause in their hiring contracts banning homosexuals. That raises a huge red flag for me, as far as legality goes. Either they have bad counsel, or they just chose to ignore it. Either way, I would strongly encourage them to drop this from future hiring contracts or they will find themselves in trouble sooner or later.

    For what it's worth, I think the school will win its case against this woman. I think it's a stretch for her to say she was fired for being pregnant. She was fired for having pre-marital sex, which, to my understanding, isn't illegal.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The First Amendment says nothing about state supported schools, only that the State cannot establish a religion. I don't know what religion this school follows but it is generally accepted that Christianity is a philosophy and various religions grew from this philosophy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The First Amendment says nothing about state supported schools, only that the State cannot establish a religion. I don't know what religion this school follows but it is generally accepted that Christianity is a philosophy and various religions grew from this philosophy.
    Christianity with a small c is the philosophy preached by Christ as given in the Bible: Love thy enemy, have charity, etc. Christianity with a capital C is the religious belief that Christ died for our sins.

    It's all well and good to follow Christian philosophy, in fact, the world would be a lot better if people would do so. It's also all well and good to hold the religious belief as well, just as long as it is supported privately and not through the government.

    Most Americans are Christians, so more people support the idea of government money being spent to further it. Put the shoe on the other foot, though. Who would support government funding of a school that teaches kids to pray to Allah five times a day? How about one that teaches Wiccan rituals? If one religion can be supported publicly, then why not any?
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Easy and forgiving targets is more likely.
    Then I think they all should have thought a little more about involving themselves in the "culture war"..........................

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    No question she broke the contract; I don't think that's what's in question. But do we really want to let employers dictate our private lives? Do they have a right to ask employees to sign such a ridiculous contract promising things that have nothing to do with the ability to perform the job well?
    Why not? The military does it.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Then I think they all should have thought a little more about involving themselves in the "culture war"..........................
    How can Christianity not be a part of the culture war? It has always been involved.

    Don't those living in the democracies support The Golden Rule? There are many in this world who don't.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Christianity with a small c is the philosophy preached by Christ as given in the Bible: Love thy enemy, have charity, etc. Christianity with a capital C is the religious belief that Christ died for our sins.

    It's all well and good to follow Christian philosophy, in fact, the world would be a lot better if people would do so. It's also all well and good to hold the religious belief as well, just as long as it is supported privately and not through the government.

    Most Americans are Christians, so more people support the idea of government money being spent to further it. Put the shoe on the other foot, though. Who would support government funding of a school that teaches kids to pray to Allah five times a day? How about one that teaches Wiccan rituals? If one religion can be supported publicly, then why not any?
    If Wiccans or Muslims follow the school curriculum and (as in the case of many Muslims schools) do not teach that others are in any way inferior, then I don't have a problem with that.

    But all these children must be taught the common language as well as American history and the values for which it stands. There must be a unity of common purpose in order for a nation, culture or society to succeed. There has been some recent conflicts in some of these areas.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The school probably has a legal department, which is why I'm surprised they have a clause in their hiring contracts banning homosexuals. That raises a huge red flag for me, as far as legality goes. Either they have bad counsel, or they just chose to ignore it. Either way, I would strongly encourage them to drop this from future hiring contracts or they will find themselves in trouble sooner or later.

    For what it's worth, I think the school will win its case against this woman. I think it's a stretch for her to say she was fired for being pregnant. She was fired for having pre-marital sex, which, to my understanding, isn't illegal.
    I'm not aware of any homosexual clause but if it exists I'd certainly be against it. Homosexuals are also 'God's creatures' and because they are homosexual should not make them immoral in the eyes of God, their creator.

    I doubt that she was fired for having premarital sex because no one need have known of it had she not become pregnant. That would be, in their eyes anyway, flaunting it.

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