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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    No question she broke the contract; I don't think that's what's in question. But do we really want to let employers dictate our private lives? Do they have a right to ask employees to sign such a ridiculous contract promising things that have nothing to do with the ability to perform the job well?
    She could have worked somewhere else! Don't employers have a right to hire whomever they want?

    If I have money burning a hole in my pocket, and I want to start a business and hire somebody, shouldn't I get to spend my money the way I want, and hire whomever I want?

    If not, maybe I'd be better off just keeping my money.

    If this were a public school, my opinion would be different. This was a private institution. We're talking about a Christian school being forced to hire someone whose values are not consistent with their own, and I feel their rights are being infringed on.

    Would we ask a Muslim school to hire someone who refused to wear a headdress and packed pork sandwiches for lunch every day?
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    She could have worked somewhere else! Don't employers have a right to hire whomever they want?

    If I have money burning a hole in my pocket, and I want to start a business and hire somebody, shouldn't I get to spend my money the way I want, and hire whomever I want?

    If not, maybe I'd be better off just keeping my money.
    If you have discriminatory hiring practices, the law says you don't get to hire whoever you want. I would say it is discriminatory to only hire Christians or those who promise to live by Christian morals when not at work.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    If you have discriminatory hiring practices, the law says you don't get to hire whoever you want. I would say it is discriminatory to only hire Christians or those who promise to live by Christian morals when not at work.
    I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that's the intent of the anti-discrimination laws we have on the books.

    If all they wanted to do was fire people for having pre-marital sex, I think that's legal.

    What raised an eyebrow to me was the ban on hiring homosexuals. I don't think that one will fly.

    I think you can discriminate against a behavior - such as premarital sex. I don't think you can discriminate against something you're either born with or can't change, such as race or gender.

    Homosexuality, generally, is considered to be something you're born with... at least I believe that's how the courts would see it. For the school to win, they would have to prove that homosexuality is a choice, which I don't think they could do.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    If you have discriminatory hiring practices, the law says you don't get to hire whoever you want. I would say it is discriminatory to only hire Christians or those who promise to live by Christian morals when not at work.
    Correct. Banning premarital sex out of the workplace probably won't hold water.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Does anyone know anyone who would allow anyone else to "regulate" their sex life ?........................

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Correct. Banning premarital sex out of the workplace probably won't hold water.
    Even if the employee signed a contract prohibiting it?

    A colleague of mine was fired for behavior away from work. He was a band teacher, and a darned good one at that. He brought the music program out of apathy and to the point that most of the kids wanted to be in band. He had an award winning music program going.

    But, he had sex with an underage girl, a 16 year old who wouldn't have been considered "underage" in some other states, but is here in California.

    She was not his student, not connected in any way with his work.

    Should he have been fired for that? personally, I don't think the school district had any other option. What do you think?
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Does anyone know anyone who would allow anyone else to "regulate" their sex life ?........................
    Anyone have a 15 year old daughter?

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Correct. Banning premarital sex out of the workplace probably won't hold water.
    False. See my answer above.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that's the intent of the anti-discrimination laws we have on the books.

    If all they wanted to do was fire people for having pre-marital sex, I think that's legal.

    What raised an eyebrow to me was the ban on hiring homosexuals. I don't think that one will fly.

    I think you can discriminate against a behavior - such as premarital sex. I don't think you can discriminate against something you're either born with or can't change, such as race or gender.

    Homosexuality, generally, is considered to be something you're born with... at least I believe that's how the courts would see it. For the school to win, they would have to prove that homosexuality is a choice, which I don't think they could do.
    I agree with you on the homosexuality thing. There's no question that's discriminatory. But this company basically fired a woman for being pregnant. And there is a long standing precedent that that is discrimination also.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Anyone have a 15 year old daughter?
    Well, at least you admit the only "hope" of doing such is with underage children.......................

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