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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    I just cannot wrap my head around what RA is saying. If I hire someone and demanded that they believe in pretty pink unicorns, they better say they believe or they're fired. It's MY business, and I hire who I want and what I want, regardless of the ridiculousness of my basis in hiring them.

    This just keeps coming off as an atheist rant - nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, CJ.

    ....and the prosecution rests.....
    And a happy day to you as well Lady P - sunny and cold here today, turning the mounds of slush into mounds of rocky ice - hope you're all dug out and having some fun.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    That however is not where discrimination laws stop. You don't technically have a constitutional right to be black, gay, female, or anything else, yet they are also protected classes. Why does someone get to be discriminated against solely on marital status?
    And again, for the umpteenth time, it's not based upon marital status but upon behavior. Adultery is also a prohibited behavior. It's not discrimination.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I just cannot wrap my head around what RA is saying.
    Perhaps you're afflicted with that cursed disease known as sanity.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Perhaps you're afflicted with that cursed disease known as sanity.
    Ah I like RA, so I'm not going there. He just seems to need to shine his atheist badge a little too much in this thread.

    He's not connecting the dots that religious institutions have rights - like atheists do.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And again, for the umpteenth time, it's not based upon marital status but upon behavior. Adultery is also a prohibited behavior. It's not discrimination.
    Sure it is. It would be the same if saying "All christians can drink beer, but non-christians can not." Then when both christian and non-christian employees drank beer, the company only fires the non-christians. They both did the exact same action, the only discriminating factor was religion.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And a happy day to you as well Lady P - sunny and cold here today, turning the mounds of slush into mounds of rocky ice - hope you're all dug out and having some fun.
    Same weather conditions here, but I intend to make the best of it anyway! Hope you have fun today as well.....

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I just cannot wrap my head around what RA is saying. If I hire someone and demanded that they believe in pretty pink unicorns, they better say they believe or they're fired. It's MY business, and I hire who I want and what I want, regardless of the ridiculousness of my basis in hiring them.

    This just keeps coming off as an atheist rant - nothing more, nothing less.
    I get that. I honestly believe one should be able to do that as well. However, IT IS CURRENTLY NOT THAT WAY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We're not talking about whether or not 100% freedom of contract should exist, because we're already going off the premise that our system is set up that it isn't the case.

    There are protected classes, race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and more. None of these things are guaranteed by the constitution, they were simply selected. I want to know why we CAN'T discriminate against someone based on religion, but we CAN discriminate against someone based on marital status.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I get that. I honestly believe one should be able to do that as well. However, IT IS CURRENTLY NOT THAT WAY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We're not talking about whether or not 100% freedom of contract should exist, because we're already going off the premise that our system is set up that it isn't the case.

    There are protected classes, race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and more. None of these things are guaranteed by the constitution, they were simply selected. I want to know why we CAN'T discriminate against someone based on religion, but we CAN discriminate against someone based on marital status.
    So do I. I think private enterprise should be allowed to discriminate based on any damn thing they please. Don't like blacks? Rip up the resume. Hate Jews? Toss them aside. Mexicans rub you wrong? End of the line.

    However, in this thread I don't view it as discrimination. I view it as a contractual obligation that one party broke. It doesn't matter how ludicrous the demand was, or on what basis it was made under. If you want the job, you abide by that contract. Everything else is just emotion, pandering, and rhetoric. She was hired to do a job and to carry a certain demeanor. She failed. They terminated her.

    The rest, I couldn't give a crap about.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I get that. I honestly believe one should be able to do that as well. However, IT IS CURRENTLY NOT THAT WAY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We're not talking about whether or not 100% freedom of contract should exist, because we're already going off the premise that our system is set up that it isn't the case.

    There are protected classes, race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and more. None of these things are guaranteed by the constitution, they were simply selected. I want to know why we CAN'T discriminate against someone based on religion, but we CAN discriminate against someone based on marital status.
    Religion IS protected by Constitution (US and state), marital status is not protected by the federal, but is protected by some state constitutions. But that's moot as this case has nothing to do with discrimination based upon marital status.

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