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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

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    It is pegged for qualifying institutions. If there are discriminatory hiring practices or admission policies, then the institution should not qualify for receiving financial aid.

    they are free to exist, they are not free to receive federal money, even by proxy.
    "Hiring" and "admission" are two very different things, as far as I'm concerned.

    Having said that, I simply have no need for a government that legislates morality. Evangelicals have had way too much power given to them through the system since the days of blue law.

    The problem is that it goes both ways. Conservatives will cry about one subjective thing, liberals will cry about another.

    In my mind, they're both wrong.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Exactly. They receive money through the federal student aid program as well as through federal grants.
    So, a school, exercising their constitutional and legal rights to discriminate based on their Christian faith, also exercise their legal rights under federal law related to Department of Education programs and grants, without any evidence that they aren't acting in a legal and professional manner is, in your view, an institution to be abused and vilified, yet a woman, who freely enters into a legal employment contract and violates it is to be defended when she suffers the consequences of her actions by being fired? And you self-identify as "very conservative"?

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    "Hiring" and "admission" are two very different things, as far as I'm concerned.

    Both suffer form teh same discriminatory policies, though.

    Having said that, I simply have no need for a government that legislates morality.
    Who is talking about that? I'm certainly not.

    The problem is that it goes both ways. Conservatives will cry about one subjective thing, liberals will cry about another.

    In my mind, they're both wrong.
    I agree. That's why I support the school winning against the fired employee, but losing their qualifications as a school that receives federal money. My stance pisses off both sides.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Both suffer form teh same discriminatory policies, though.



    Who is talking about that? I'm certainly not.



    I agree. That's why I support the school winning against the fired employee, but losing their qualifications as a school that receives federal money. My stance pisses off both sides.
    I have absolutely NO problem with denying them direct federal assistance. I DO have a problem with telling a student that receiving student aid means that she cannot go to a desired establishment. You're hurting the student as much as the school in that instance.

    It makes me think of the NCAA putting a school on probation because of past deeds, and punishing upcoming students and players who did nothing wrong except go to school where people who used to go there broke some rules.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    ...yet a woman, who freely enters into a legal employment contract and violates it is to be defended when she suffers the consequences of her actions by being fired?
    Serious question: Do you actually understand what you read?
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Both suffer form teh same discriminatory policies, though.



    Who is talking about that? I'm certainly not.



    I agree. That's why I support the school winning against the fired employee, but losing their qualifications as a school that receives federal money. My stance pisses off both sides.
    But once again that thinking fails because the feds don't consider those policies in question to be discriminatory.

    Gloria, her lawyer knows this, that's why they aren't going after the contract.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Serious question: Do you actually understand what you read?
    I readily admit I'm not fluent in gibberish, so if you're referring to many of your posts, I'd have to say no.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I have absolutely NO problem with denying them direct federal assistance. I DO have a problem with telling a student that receiving student aid means that she cannot go to a desired establishment.
    Nonsense. The people getting the loans to not have carte blanche to do whatever they please with it. They can't just give it to their cousin philbert and claim he is a university, for example.

    Plus, not allowing that money to be used at overpriced LA schools that aren't even ranked helps the student far more than they probably realize. Unless Jesus can miracle their ass a job, they're probably ****ed with a ****ty ass LA degree and 100K in loan debt.

    If they want a loan they can use anywhere they want, then they go to a bank just like anyone else.


    It makes me think of the NCAA putting a school on probation because of past deeds, and punishing upcoming students and players who did nothing wrong except go to school where people who used to go there broke some rules.
    The school can still exist. Students would still be able to get loans (private ones). They simply couldn't have the federal money. It's nothing to cry victim about.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    ... I'd have to say no.
    That much was obvious considering that you just accused one of the most vocal people arguing in favor of the school being right to fire the idiot who signed their retarded ass contract.

    Pretty stupid thing to do, right? It's a shame that the victim-mentality is so prevalent that you just leapt to your persecution theory without actually applying any thought to it.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Plus, not allowing that money to be used at overpriced LA schools that aren't even ranked helps the student far more than they probably realize. Unless Jesus can miracle their ass a job, they're probably ****ed with a ****ty ass LA degree and 100K in loan debt.
    I've made that argument before. Liberals jumped on my ass.

    It wouldn't break my heart to see all grants and loans dry up if used on liberal arts or humanities.

    That aside, there are still some schools who discriminate that are HIGH quality institutions that could produce adverse effects if denied enrollment. Notre Dame, BYU, and any service academy comes to mind.

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