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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I am not saying nuns should be allowed to have unmarried sex and remain nuns, THAT is the Church. Now if the Church only hired ordained preachers/pastors/nuns I agree with you.

    Totally

    However private doesn't mean the Government rules and regulations don't apply.

    Not sure you understand the phrase 'right to contract'. That isn't being argued, what is being argued is non church members, secular professionals hired to do a secular job are not 'priestly' but regular citizens. The Church isn't taking federal funds when they accept student using Pell Grants, school lunches, other student aid, and the like, it is the quasi independent education branch.

    If there is that separation to receive federal funds then too there is a separation in the contracting of secular workers.
    The school is not recieving pell grants. The student is.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I am not saying nuns should be allowed to have unmarried sex and remain nuns, THAT is the Church. Now if the Church only hired ordained preachers/pastors/nuns I agree with you.

    Totally

    However private doesn't mean the Government rules and regulations don't apply.
    It doesn't mean that government gets to dominate either.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Not sure you understand the phrase 'right to contract'. That isn't being argued, what is being argued is non church members, secular professionals hired to do a secular job are not 'priestly' but regular citizens. The Church isn't taking federal funds when they accept student using Pell Grants, school lunches, other student aid, and the like, it is the quasi independent education branch.

    If there is that separation to receive federal funds then too there is a separation in the contracting of secular workers.
    I'm not sure you understand the full repercussions of Right to Contract.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The school is not recieving pell grants. The student is.
    LMAO, nice try, this would be the first school where Student Aid didn't have all the forms to apply for the grant, and quite happy to help the student apply. If you really want to tap dance the student must use the grant money with approved schools.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The christians are at it again.

    If I sign a ridiculous contract saying that I won't be black, then turn out to be black later, should I be fired for that too?
    Hardly an apt analogy. It is not a sin against God to black; it is a sin against God to have pre-marital sex.

    A private Christian institution should have the right to demand Christian standards amongst its employees. That said, there is no such thing as a sin-free individual; and to a Christian, sin is sin... there is no gradient of sin... so, to discharge an employee for committing a sin would mean the institution would have to fire all of its employees.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    LMAO, nice try, this would be the first school where Student Aid didn't have all the forms to apply for the grant, and quite happy to help the student apply. If you really want to tap dance the student must use the grant money with approved schools.
    What schools are restricted? I would bet thats a shorter list than those that are approved. And there's probably a reason why some schools are not allowed. If there are any. But in either case it is the student that applies for the pell grants, not the school. And it is the student that gets the money, not the school. At least the school does not get it until the student pays it to them.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Hardly an apt analogy. It is not a sin against God to black; it is a sin against God to have pre-marital sex.

    A private Christian institution should have the right to demand Christian standards amongst its employees. That said, there is no such thing as a sin-free individual; and to a Christian, sin is sin... there is no gradient of sin... so, to discharge an employee for committing a sin would mean the institution would have to fire all of its employees.
    No. We all sin and can be forgiven. This however does not mean we get to escape earthly laws and contracts.

    She signed a contract to uphold a moral standard with specifically enumerated responsibilities. It was the terms she agreed to for employment within a known religious institution. She broke those terms and so her contract was terminated legally.

    So it was her responsibility to follow the agreed to terms. She broke the terms.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    She only got caught because she was pregnant. It was extremely unlikely that she would have been caught any other way. Since men can't get pregnant they are extremely unlikely to get caught. That fact could be used in her favor in court as evidence of de facto gender discrimination.
    Sure. And, add to that pointing out that there are rumors about this guy or that one having sex with this woman or that one, rumors that the organization ignored or never followed up on (a highly likely probability), and she has a solid case proving that this rule applies only to women.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

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    Doesn't make it right.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So you believe that there should be absolutely zero limits on what a corporation should be able to ask from their employees?
    What atrocious logic did you employ to even consider that question even remotely valid? Seriously, such melodramatic nonsense has no purpose in an intelligent discussion.

    Should a Wal-Mart supervisor be able to draft an employment contract stating that daily blowjobs must be given by the employee?
    No, for multiple reasons. The most obvious of which, though, is that maintaining a certain standard of conduct is vastly different from having to perform sexual acts as part of one's job duties. That's so obvious, it shouldn't even have required stating, but apparently, you didn't know it.

    That being said, if the employer was a brothel instead of wal-mart, such a contract makes perfect sense.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    No but firing for having sex based on their marital status is illegal in California.
    I'd like to see that law.
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