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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    No one is saying the is no right to contract, what I'm saying is the Church should not get special exemptions when contracting secular employees.
    I think that secular should be able to exclude the same things as church. Government, OK we can say it cannot; but private is private. There is right to contract, and we must understand what the ramifications of that really are.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Do you believe that a company should be able to fire or refuse to hire someone for absolutely any reason whatsoever? Whether that be skin color, sexual orientation, or anything else?
    In the perfect world, yes.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    So, did they actually see her having sex?

    I mean, I seem to recall a Christian story about a women who lived 2000 years ago who is said to have managed the trick without it.
    Nice post

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    If she can show that men are not held to the same standard, she may end up never needing to worry about working again.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    If she can show that men are not held to the same standard, she may end up never needing to worry about working again.
    She only got caught because she was pregnant. It was extremely unlikely that she would have been caught any other way. Since men can't get pregnant they are extremely unlikely to get caught. That fact could be used in her favor in court as evidence of de facto gender discrimination.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    No one is forcing anyone to do anything. To be honest, if the college really wanted her gone for that reason, they just could've found a legitimate reason to fire her, like being bad at her job. They didn't do that, however, they specifically came out and declared it was solely because of her bedroom activities.

    This isn't even in the same universe as affirmative action. No one is telling this college to hire X% of a pre-marital sex'ers.
    Affirmative action does not tell a company that it must hire X% of a certain class of people either. It just tells that company that it cannot discriminate against an individual based on certain things.

    And yes, if you fine a company or deny that companies ability to choose who it does or does not hire or keep employed then you are forcing that company to do something. To say otherwise is simply a denial of reality because that is exactly what affirmative action was all about. Denying a company to not hire or keep employed someone that fit a certain criteria. If we deny the ability of a company to require that someone sign a contract in which the person must uphold what the company says then we are forcing that company to keep employed or to hire someone which may practice something which goes against what the company wants. In this instance they hired a woman who then went against the tennents that that company upholds. What would it do to the image of a Christian based company that allowed people to go against the tennents that it is based on? Would you want to hire someone that believed in anarchy if your company based its public image on law and order? Particularly if that person went out and spoke openly of anarchy? Would you want a cop that believed in anarchy but only got the job to get training and access to guns?
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    She only got caught because she was pregnant. It was extremely unlikely that she would have been caught any other way. Since men can't get pregnant they are extremely unlikely to get caught. That fact could be used in her favor in court as evidence of de facto gender discrimination.
    How did gay people that were in the Military when DADT was enforced caught? No secret is ever completely safe when there is more than one person involved.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    So, did they actually see her having sex?

    I mean, I seem to recall a Christian story about a women who lived 2000 years ago who is said to have managed the trick without it.
    Immaculate Conception? Sorry but last I heard that wasn't "technically" immaculate conception as it still required that some outside force impregnate her...in that instance it was God.

    Besides, she already admitted to having sex.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Would it be presumptuous to think the people who enforced such rules are the sort no one wants to have sex with anyway?
    Actaully I would guess that its the kind of people who like dirty deeds best when they feel like they are getting away with it. They mentally never grew up and still want to have the lifelong experience that they had having sex as a teenager in their parents' basement. Then they grew up physically and the excitement died because they were no longer breaking any rules soooooo.... voila... rules.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think that secular should be able to exclude the same things as church. Government, OK we can say it cannot; but private is private. There is right to contract, and we must understand what the ramifications of that really are.
    I am not saying nuns should be allowed to have unmarried sex and remain nuns, THAT is the Church. Now if the Church only hired ordained preachers/pastors/nuns I agree with you.

    Totally

    However private doesn't mean the Government rules and regulations don't apply.

    Not sure you understand the phrase 'right to contract'. That isn't being argued, what is being argued is non church members, secular professionals hired to do a secular job are not 'priestly' but regular citizens. The Church isn't taking federal funds when they accept student using Pell Grants, school lunches, other student aid, and the like, it is the quasi independent education branch.

    If there is that separation to receive federal funds then too there is a separation in the contracting of secular workers.

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