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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    That has no bearing in discrimination cases. Interracial relations are technically a behavior, still covered.
    Of course. But prohibiting interracial relationships are a matter of targeting race, rather than behavior. There is no non-interracial equivalent behavior that is being targeted as well.

    But when extramarital sex is being discussed, there is both a non-married and married behavior involved, both of which are prohibited by this contract. If it was one and not the other, then a very strong case for discrimination could exist, but since both were targeted, that case is far, far weaker.



    It doesn't matter any more than if you punished white and black participants equally for having interracial sex.
    False. The fact that the overarching behavior which was prohibited (extramarital sex) applies to all people, regardless of their marital status (and it does here) it is not comparable to interracial sex (which only applies to those who would engage in interracial sex). there would have to be an equivalent that applied to non-interracial sex in order for the two to be comparable.

    If you base the choice to fire someone in part on martial status, its illegal.
    It wasn't based on that, though.



    I'd disagree that the statuses of married vs non-married are equal (non married people can't have sex at all), but lets say I hypothetically agreed. Your claim wouldn't legitimize firing unmarried people for having premarital sex, it would ban firing people for having affairs
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    Where did you get that idea from? It includes all extramarital sex, not just extramarital sex with a married partner (that's the key difference from your interracial sex example).



    Agreed, but the women in this particular case has no standing.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Nope. Discrimination against homosexuals is not illegal, the Boy Scouts don't have to change a thing.
    It's legal so long as the Scouts uniformly enforce it. That's why there's such a fuss over allowing individual dens to make their own policy. As soon as one den anywhere allows one gay member, The Boy Scouts of America in to-to will be sued by the ACLU in Federal court for discrimination, and the ACLU will win.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Thank you. This just happens to be one of the things I've evolved on in the past year or so. I don't believe large companies or corporations are people, and I believe that they need to follow a certain set of guidelines. Under the same logic that I oppose discrimination against gays and minorities, I oppose this kind of discrimination. I understand that she signed an agreement with ridiculous conditions, but I see the agreement itself to be discriminatory.

    Why should we see a difference between companies who fire people for being gay, vs companies who fire people for being gay who signed paperwork first not to be gay? How is this any different? The only stance you can take against this while remaining intellectually consistent is that companies should be able to discriminate for any reason whatsoever.

    Otherwise, why stop a company who makes a worker certify in writing that they aren't black in order to be employed? That way you can refuse to hire a black person for not signing the contract, not because you didn't want to hire a black person.
    no one used pressure to make the woman to TAKE the job, she used her free will, and once you agree to terms on things by two consenting entities, both sides have to keep their part of that contract...she violated hers.

    discrimination is LEGAL, for (citizens or business), under the u.s. constitution it states governments cannot discriminate, as well as government in the CA constitution.

    government has no authority to nullity the contract

    California declaration of rights.

    SEC. 9. A bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing
    the obligation of (contracts) may not be passed.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's fine, except that they knew what her boyfriend did and still hired him.

    Did that Catholic school board turn around and then hire someone who they knew was guilty of the same thing?
    Who said they knew before they hired him - Gloria Allred?? Perhaps he was engaged at the time he applied for the position and if the school knew, they decided that he was displaying moral character by marrying the mother of his child - I don't know, but you don't know what was in their minds at the time. The only thing certain, from the details provided, is that the woman had a contract, she freely signed, and she breached the terms of that contract and thus was subject to any sanction laid out in the contract she signed. She can't claim she was misled or she didn't know. She needs to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions and move on with her life with her husband and child - period.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Him not being fired for the same offense equals discrimination.
    He didn't commit any offense, not did she. She violated the terms of her employment contract, he did not as he wasn't employed by them at the time. IF he is now, he's still not violating the terms of the contract because they are married.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    She was wrongly fired and deserves compensation for it.
    Is that you Gloria?

    (rocket88, you know I'm just kidding)

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    He didn't commit any offense, not did she. She violated the terms of her employment contract, he did not as he wasn't employed by them at the time. IF he is now, he's still not violating the terms of the contract because they are married.
    I missed that. Good point.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh no, don't get me wrong, she should have been fired. In so far as anyone has been able to demonstrate on this thread, the contract was lawful. She signed it, she broke it, she was fired. She was not wrongfully terminated. The school, however, must enforce that policy uniformly. The school must fire the then-boyfriend, or the school will be in violation of state law. Now, this doesn't mean the woman has a case, because she was rightfully terminated. This is between the school and the state.

    The BoyScouts, the true target here, have a uniform ban on gays because the instant they allow 1, they have to allow all. You cannot allow a gay den leader here, but not there. The policy has to be uniformly enforced.
    And once again, the then boyfriend did not work for them (may still not work for them).

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    It's a private institution. She signed a contract, end of story.

    She was not forced to sign it so I have no problem here.

    Personal responsibility is just out the window with to many lib's these days.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    It's a private institution. She signed a contract, end of story.

    She was not forced to sign it so I have no problem here.

    Personal responsibility is just out the window with to many lib's these days.
    Amen!

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