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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How do you know that happened? If the reason for her firing was "premarital sex," why would you then hire her partner in said sex?
    I can't believe people are this obtuse. A religious institution, particularly one that teaches their faith, a faith that includes pre-marital sex as a sin, has every right to expect that those it employs will either be practicing members of their faith or, if not, respectful of the teachings of their faith. Thus the provision within her contract. It's likely, although I have no evidence to support this, that this is a standard contract that employees who are not members of the faith sign upon being hired - members of the faith would not need to because it would be expected they would be faithful and subject to dismissal if not.

    The woman broke the terms of her contract and was thus dismissed - had the boyfriend/husband been employed with the school at the same time, he would have been treated the same way. I worked for a Catholic school board and can assure you that any employee who had direct contact with students who acted in a way that was contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church was given two options - they were asked to submit their resignation, and the Board would keep the issue quiet, or they were fired and if asked for a reference in the future, the reason for dismissal could be shared. Most chose to resign, and there were many.

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    Seems pretty simple to me. She knew the rules, she broke the rules and suffered the consequences. If you don't want to follow the strict rules of a Christian college - don't work there!


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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I can't believe people are this obtuse. A religious institution, particularly one that teaches their faith, a faith that includes pre-marital sex as a sin, has every right to expect that those it employs will either be practicing members of their faith or, if not, respectful of the teachings of their faith. Thus the provision within her contract. It's likely, although I have no evidence to support this, that this is a standard contract that employees who are not members of the faith sign upon being hired - members of the faith would not need to because it would be expected they would be faithful and subject to dismissal if not.

    The woman broke the terms of her contract and was thus dismissed - had the boyfriend/husband been employed with the school at the same time, he would have been treated the same way. I worked for a Catholic school board and can assure you that any employee who had direct contact with students who acted in a way that was contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church was given two options - they were asked to submit their resignation, and the Board would keep the issue quiet, or they were fired and if asked for a reference in the future, the reason for dismissal could be shared. Most chose to resign, and there were many.

    That's fine, except that they knew what her boyfriend did and still hired him.

    Did that Catholic school board turn around and then hire someone who they knew was guilty of the same thing?


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And they'll grow up so well with no income.

    Of course, that won't happen in this case because she since married her boyfriend. Who also works at the same place and was not fired. Don't let the facts grind you down Jerry. We all know Conservatives never ever have sex outside of marriage.
    The article only says he was offerred a job there, not that he took it. Also he wasn't under contract in any event when they were committing the act(s). They are married now.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    She was wrongly fired and deserves compensation for it.
    No one should be compensation for being fired, ever.

    Regardless, no she breached a contract and it was perfectly the right decision.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    She was wrongly fired and deserves compensation for it.
    She was not wrongfully terminated. Her husband was wrongfully employed.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

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    I believe that our right to privacy justifies a law that prohibits employers from discriminating or firing employees for most off-work behavior and expressions of opinion. Since the US Supreme Court has a mixed record on whether we have a right to privacy, this may take a constitutional amendment. Without such protection and with the trend of corporate consolidation, our constitutional rights could become moot if all or most employers decided to restrict employee's off work behavior.



    Yes. I would allow drug testing only for employees who operate heavy machinery or have similar safety responsibilities and for employees who appear to be under the influence while at work.
    I agree. I refuse to drug test my employees even though it would save me a bit of money on my insurance. If they are under the influence at work I would just fire them. I am in a right to work state.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The BoyScouts, the true target here, have a uniform ban on gays because the instant they allow 1, they have to allow all. You cannot allow a gay den leader here, but not there. The policy has to be uniformly enforced.
    Nope. Discrimination against homosexuals is not illegal, the Boy Scouts don't have to change a thing.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How do you know that happened? If the reason for her firing was "premarital sex," why would you then hire her partner in said sex?
    Compassion and he hadn't made any contractual promises to them yet.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    1. I know you don't care because personal freedom only matters when it's your personal freedom.
    You don't have the right to employment, so no, I don't care if someone gets fired. Forgive me.

    2. It has plenty of bearing on her case as it's against the law to fire someone based on gender.
    Not for them its not.

    3. No, actually it's not.
    Actually it is. Read the law again.

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