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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Shes got a case.
    Link from below the video to the original story.
    10News - Woman sues San Diego Christian College, claims she was fired for having premarital sex 021413 - 10News.com - News



    Her boyfriend was offered a position despite knowing of his similar status with pre-marital sex. Plain old gender descrimination.
    Read it again. She, under contract to not have premarital sex, did it anyway. The boyfriend is now the husband. And when he was still the boyfriend he wasn't under contract, so his behavior precedes the contract. The details and timing aren't included in the article, but it's easy to see the admin having compassion for her being pregnant and out of a job so says to boyfriend, get married and then we'll hire you so you can support your family.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not sure how that matters here.

    He's getting different treatment because he has a penis.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He's getting different treatment because he has a penis.
    And your point being what?

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Read it again. She, under contract to not have premarital sex, did it anyway. The boyfriend is now the husband. And when he was still the boyfriend he wasn't under contract, so his behavior precedes the contract. The details and timing aren't included in the article, but it's easy to see the admin having compassion for her being pregnant and out of a job so says to boyfriend, get married and then we'll hire you so you can support your family.
    How do you know that happened? If the reason for her firing was "premarital sex," why would you then hire her partner in said sex?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not sure how that matters here.
    It's critical.

    2 people sign the same agreement. 2 people brake that agreement in the exact same way. One is fired, the other is not. They are both the same race, so this is not about race. They are both the same approximate age, so this is not about age. They are both the same marital status, so this is not about marital status. They are both the same sexual orientation, so this is not about gender preference.

    One is a woman, the other is not. One is pregnant, the other is not.

    Therefore this is about gender and pregnancy.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i support just about everything you say, and i find you with intelligent thought so many times.
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    but i dont agree with you here, if you sign a contract you are-------> bound to it.

    the contract involves immoral behavior, which by signing a person agrees to not violate, being black is not an immoral action, under the bible.

    one of the biggest problem this nation faces, is most people do not want to obey the contracts, things they sign, with they pledge to honor.

    this is not taking responsibility ......for the actions a person takes.
    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This comparison is ludicrous, but don't let me stop you from throwing the race card out there. I never figured a libertarian for that.
    This just happens to be one of the things I've evolved on in the past year or so. I don't believe large companies or corporations are people, and I believe that they need to follow a certain set of guidelines. Under the same logic that I oppose discrimination against gays and minorities, I oppose this kind of discrimination. I understand that she signed an agreement with ridiculous conditions, but I see the agreement itself to be discriminatory.

    Why should we see a difference between companies who fire people for being gay, vs companies who fire people for being gay who signed paperwork first not to be gay? How is this any different? The only stance you can take against this while remaining intellectually consistent is that companies should be able to discriminate for any reason whatsoever.

    Otherwise, why stop a company who makes a worker certify in writing that they aren't black in order to be employed? That way you can refuse to hire a black person for not signing the contract, not because you didn't want to hire a black person.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And your point being what?
    Men shouldn't get special treatment. Except in your head.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I believe that our right to privacy justifies a law that prohibits employers from discriminating or firing employees for most off-work behavior and expressions of opinion. Since the US Supreme Court has a mixed record on whether we have a right to privacy, this may take a constitutional amendment. Without such protection and with the trend of corporate consolidation, our constitutional rights could become moot if all or most employers decided to restrict employee's off work behavior.

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    Like drug testing?
    Yes. I would allow drug testing only for employees who operate heavy machinery or have similar safety responsibilities and for employees who appear to be under the influence while at work.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's critical.

    2 people sign the same agreement. 2 people brake that agreement in the exact same way. One is fired, the other is not. They are both the same race, so this is not about race. They are both the same approximate age, so this is not about age. They are both the same marital status, so this is not about marital status. They are both the same sexual orientation, so this is not about gender preference.

    One is a woman, the other is not. One is pregnant, the other is not.

    Therefore this is about sex and pregnancy.
    Yeah, and?

    Should he be fired too? Sure, but he is not. I don't see why that matters to her situation anyway. She is still in breach of the contract and she was fired for it like she should have been.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That doesn't target a behavior, though, it targets a race.
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    That has no bearing in discrimination cases. Interracial relations are technically a behavior, still covered.

    But all extramarital sex (the specific behavior) receives the same consequences, regardless of whether or not the participants are single or married.
    It doesn't matter any more than if you punished white and black participants equally for having interracial sex. If you base the choice to fire someone in part on martial status, its illegal.

    ALL forms of unmarried sex were included in the contract. Even those engaged in by married people (adultery). Married people would also be fired if they had extramarital sex. That means it cannot be considered discrimination based on marital status, since the rule against extramarital sex is equally applied to both married and unmarried people. It's an important distinction.
    I'd disagree that the statuses of married vs non-married are equal (non married people can't have sex at all), but lets say I hypothetically agreed. Your claim wouldn't legitimize firing unmarried people for having premarital sex, it would ban firing people for having affairs.


    The contract does have one thing that I would say is certainly discriminatory, and that is the prohibition of homosexual sex. Married homosexuals would not be allowed to have sex with each other due to that clause being present, and that is discrimination based on sexual orientation.
    Agreed, but the women in this particular case has no standing.

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