"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
What I am more concerned though is: Can a contract cover one's personal decisions of what they do on their life?
Can a contract be expanded to enforce other personal issues such as for instance "When you piss make sure you do not move the spilling of urine to make the shape of a pentagram in your toilet, be it in our facility, or every other one you may ever have anywhere in the world while you are still working for our high standard church school or else you may be fired"
It may apply more to men working with personal space and decisions intruding contracts such as these, but you catch my drift.
Last edited by DDD; 02-27-13 at 03:22 PM.
And perhaps your second point is a fair one, but in today's society, many things that people do "when not at work" become grounds for dismissal - witness all the warnings to people to be careful what they post on Facebook and online in general.
Shes got a case.
Link from below the video to the original story.
10News - Woman sues San Diego Christian College, claims she was fired for having premarital sex 021413 - 10News.com - News
Her boyfriend was offered a position despite knowing of his similar status with pre-marital sex. Plain old gender descrimination.SAN DIEGO - In a lawsuit announced Thursday, a woman claims she was fired from her job at a San Diego college because she engaged in premarital sex and became pregnant.
Teri James alleges her employer, San Diego Christian College in El Cajon, wrongfully terminated her. James hired high-profile attorney Gloria Allred to represent her in the case.
"The HR director indicated that she was not being fired because she was pregnant. Instead, she was being terminated because she had premarital sex," said Allred.
Up until four months ago, James was a financial aid specialist at the school -- until she said the university learned of her pregnancy.
"I feel like what San Diego Christian College did to me was hurtful and un-Christ like. I was unmarried, pregnant and they took away my livelihood," said James, who is six months pregnant.
James' lawsuit against the school alleges "discrimination on account of gender, pregnancy and marital status."
Additionally, Allred said James' then-boyfriend -- who is now her husband -- received completely different treatment from the school.
According to Allred, he was offered a job even though the school knew he was James' boyfriend and a father-to-be.
School officials declined a 10News interview request, but said there is a community covenant contract all job candidates must sign before they are hired. Students must also sign the contract.
The contract, in part, says "… sexually immoral behavior, including premarital sex, adultery, pornography and homosexuality …" are not allowed.
Allred said the school's firing of her client "violates state law and the California Constitution, and discriminates against women."
San Diego Christian College student Cassidy Martin told 10News, "I don't want to say she deserved it because that's kind of harsh, but I mean, I know what the rules are so I know also the consequences."
"Everyone sins in life … I think they should give her a chance to at least prove herself," said student Ashley Jarosin.
The university makes it very clear to job seekers that they expect them to share biblical teachings and traditional Christian beliefs. - See more at: 10News - Woman sues San Diego Christian College, claims she was fired for having premarital sex 021413 - 10News.com - News
This is all you making up **** I never stated nor argued. You know better.You did promote the concept, although it might not have been intentional. That's what providing made up excuses for people's stupid choices does. It gives them the ability to feign victimhood by playing toward people's sympathies for their mythical predicament. By responding with your excuse about the economy and lack of work to my comment about receiving the correct consequences for her own stupid choices, you were very much seeking to excuse her stupid decisions by pretending that she had her options limited to signing the contract or not having a job (a totally unsubstantiated assumption).
If you were not intending to promote the victim-mentality, then you simply did it accidentally.
There's no strawman, since I am not saying that you are arguing in favor of the victim mentality. I am pointing out exactly how the argument you did make has the effect of promoting the victim mentality. Since I am using your own argument, though, and looking at teh effects that it has, it is nothing even remotely close to a strawman.
So, in order for what I said to be a strawman, you would have to be able to demonstrate that you did NOT provide an excuse her own stupid choices.
50 bucks to anyone who puts a bullet into the brain base of Gloria Allred. If it's not enough, I'll put up a donation website. I'm sure I can get many people to pitch in.