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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nope. That's not the means test. Do other religious employers have these same morals clauses - that woud be the means test. Not quite accurate. He did indeed shun and call for the shunning of those who were unrepentant sinners (the moneychangers at the temple for example).
    Actually that isn't the means test as the fight over birth control for religious school's secular employees is showing us.

    He shunned the temple's moneychangers...that would be church officials but he didn't shun the people like the ones I mentioned. You keep using 'unrepentant' as if you know for a fact the young lady in question didn't apologize, ask for guidance or seek forgiveness.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The point is the contract was a bad one, not that she did not violate it. The idea that an employer should be able to regulate what people do when not at work that does not affect job performance is scarey.
    It's actually quite common and there is valid logic behind it. For example, clauses in athlete's contracts that allow their respective leagues to punish them for conduct that they engage in off the field. Employees can be considered representatives of their employer.

    If someone does not wish to work for a company that has such rules, then they can simply choose not to do so. they are in no way victimized by their choice to sign any such contract and failure to abide by it. They are entirely at fault for their own problems in such a scenario.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That may have worked, but again, fantasy that has no bearing on this case.
    Has she already admitted to having sex? If so, she's ****ed.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    I must have misunderstood you. I thought YOU said that the church could legally check for the hymen.
    Gotcha. YOU invoked precedent, the precedent involves the priest doing the check to confirm. Heck prior to the 13th century priests participated in the newlywed's first night teaching them both how to copulate.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Gotcha. YOU invoked precedent, the precedent involves the priest doing the check to confirm. Heck prior to the 13th century priests participated in the newlywed's first night teaching them both how to copulate.
    I understand that in the past it was done, but with todays laws, no way in hell.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Has she already admitted to having sex? If so, she's ****ed.
    Yes. She is attacking the contract on the grounds that it is an illegal provision and she shouldn't be fired for it.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I heard that some Christian sects have a belief in the value of forgiveness.
    Some do.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    I understand that in the past it was done, but with todays laws, no way in hell.
    Agreed, but again, in today's environment there is no claim of immaculate conception available in the first place.

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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The problem is the slow economy and lack of jobs. If the choice is having to sign a contract like that, or not have a job, you can see where she might sign it.
    Tough **** for her, I guess.

    She still had choices to make, she just decided to make bad ones. A series of bad ones, in fact. She's no victim of anything but her own stupid choices.
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    Re: Woman fired for having sex

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's actually quite common and there is valid logic behind it. For example, clauses in athlete's contracts that allow their respective leagues to punish them for conduct that they engage in off the field. Employees can be considered representatives of their employer.
    That affects job performance, since part of the job is as a public face of the team those athletes are representing.

    If someone does not wish to work for a company that has such rules, then they can simply choose not to do so. they are in no way victimized by their choice to sign any such contract and failure to abide by it. They are entirely at fault for their own problems in such a scenario.
    I did not use the word "victimized". There is a reason why I did not.
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