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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    In order to not confuse people....you should probably put your lean as Libertarian....Libertarians follow close to classical liberalism.
    Wouldn't it be better if people actually educated themselves and not relied on the modern day bastardization of words like liberal and conservative?

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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Likely a lot is related to politics, but I believe that for some they truly feel that the person being nominated by the President isn't qualified or is disqualified for some reason important to them. It's similar to judicial nominations and why Alberto Gonzales didn't get appointed to the Supreme Court, although Supreme Court nominees are for life, so more important a decision.
    There are no qualifications for cabinet jobs other than the president nominates you. Outside of major issues(say a secretary of treasury nominee who did not bother to pay taxes for awhile...he forgot, honest) it is best to confirm them. Elections have consequences, even when you do not like them, and considering republicans have been president more than half my adult life(Reagan, Bush, Bush), there are lots of cases when I do not like them.
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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    and all of that chest thumping and political bickering was a big waste of time and money.
    It was democracy in action.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    because the Party of NO will oppose anything and everything that Obama proposes...even if it means eating one of their own.
    Thank God we live in a country where the people are represented vice a dictatorship. I for one, am glad there's someone in Washington to oppose Obama's destructive and oppressive policies.
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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Something tells me Mr. Hagel is not a very "forgiving" type of guy........................

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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    I was kind of surprised looking at the roll call. Rand Paul, Thad Cochran, and Dick Shelby breaking ranks while Collins, Murkowski, and Kirk don't. I guess it makes sense when you look at their foreign policy positions, but those aren't the first Senators I think of when it comes to crossing over.
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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thanks. This kinda points to the problem, which is not democrat or republican, they both do it. The problem is playing politics with things that shouldn't be.
    It actually is a quite a bit more partisan than recent candidates for Secretary of Defense. Only John Tower has gotten less than 92 yea votes since 1977. Looking at the names though, it seems Presidents generally try to nominate candidates with bipartisan appeal for the position. That wasn't really the case here, but I suspect that was what Obama was going for by nominating a former Republican senator, even though he had rather left-leaning views on foreign policy.
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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    The following is why Hagel got the 3rd Degree from many of his form colleagues..



    He was known for standing up against the "business as usual bull**** in Washington".

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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The following is why Hagel got the 3rd Degree from many of his form colleagues..



    He was known for standing up against the "business as usual bull**** in Washington".
    Also the way the politics of any opposition to his nomination played out. There was an attempt to portray him as both antigay and antijewish: After his "apology", any real opposition from the former vanished, leaving the latter in an unenviable position...............

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    Re: Senate Confirms Hagel as Secretary of Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Also the way the politics of any opposition to his nomination played out. There was an attempt to portray him as both antigay and antijewish: After his "apology", any real opposition from the former vanished, leaving the latter in an unenviable position...............
    There's various videos showing Hagel calling out his colleague's bull****... embarrassing them, making them accountable for actions. They hated Hagel for that.

    That's basically why he didn't run for office again. He was sick and tired of the dishonesty in Washington.

    Honestly, I'm not sure why he wants to be Sect of Defense.

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