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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Can anyone guess which policies contributed greatly to this reduction in gun crime?
    Databasing, big brother type monitoring, ignoring 4th amendment restrictions, aggressive policing?
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Let's see $55/year for a $30,000 car vs. $38/year for a $350 handgun; it is not even close.
    That is irrelevant. The cost of the item has no correlation at all, none.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Databasing, big brother type monitoring, ignoring 4th amendment restrictions, aggressive policing?
    True for the most part, but frisking for weapons does not violate the 4th amend.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    But, but, but 0.18% is just like 10.8%

    They both have a zero, a one, and an eight!
    Yep. It is simply that mind over matter thing; if he doesn't mind then it doesn't matter.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    That is irrelevant. The cost of the item has no correlation at all, none.
    I agree and I wish ttwt would stop confusing the issue with facts
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    True for the most part, but frisking for weapons does not violate the 4th amend.
    On a few points they do. First off, it shouldn't be illegal to carry a gun in the first place (ok...that one's second amendment). Secondly, these policies don't necessarily require that there be any reasonable suspicion that one is carrying a gun. If they do not have proper cause or warrant, they should not be allowed to search.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I agree and I wish ttwt would stop confusing the issue with facts
    What facts? That owning a gun cost less than owning a car? Owning a car is not even remotely related or comparable to owning a weapon of any type. Of course never let reality get in the way of a good argument seems to be the motto of you two. It is a silly apples to oranges comparison based on nonsense.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    On a few points they do. First off, it shouldn't be illegal to carry a gun in the first place (ok...that one's second amendment). Secondly, these policies don't necessarily require that there be any reasonable suspicion that one is carrying a gun. If they do not have proper cause or warrant, they should not be allowed to search.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    That is relevant. The cost of the item has no correlation at all, none.
    That was exactly the argument that you initially presented to defend the high cost of a CHL - the ability to afford the "high cost" of a handgun. When shown how rediculously out of proportion it was, you now blow it off as not important? There is no valid reason to charge 10x the fee for a CHL than for a DL except to try to limit those that can afford it. Get real!
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. It is simply that mind over matter thing; if he doesn't mind then it doesn't matter.
    Yea because that is exactly what I said. Jeeesh.
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