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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    If you can own a weapon legally, you can get a CCW. No one is being denied who can legally own a weapon.



    Wrong again. As I said if you can legally own a weapon, you can get a conceal carry in your state of residence. Even out of state in some cases. So no.

    Do you know anything on this subject? Or are you just guessing and making things up?
    Nonsense. In Texas that CHL costs $240, hardly a minor expense considering that a driver's license is $24. Why is it 10x as expensive to simply keep your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms than to add a driving privilege (good in all states, BTW)? Hmm...
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Deal with the biggest street gangs in America first.



    Uggg... The story about the dudes wife getting force stripped to the nude by cops for calling for help. *shudders*
    Care to provide your statistics to back up your assertion that LEOs are the biggest "gang" problem?
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    As I have just shown your "tight restrictions" is an absolute and utter lie.
    Here is a link to the laws concerning CCW in New York City

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newyork.pdf

    IMPORTANT NOTE: Your New York State pistol license is only valid in the counties outside the 5 counties of New York City. Unless it is validated by New York City. You may not take your handguns into the city, this includes Self Protection licensees, with a few exceptions.
    IOW, the law you linked to do not apply in NYC

    New York has so many laws and regulations that applying for a permit to carry is a long drawn out process.
    Concealed Handguns in New York City Backed by 243 in U.S. House - Bloomberg

    In New York City, it’s nearly impossible for most applicants to get concealed-carry permits, said Jerold Levine, an attorney who handles appeals of denials. Officials with the New York Police Department, which vets applications in the city, declined to comment for this story.

    ‘Moral Character’

    Unlike many jurisdictions, the city considers the applicant’s “moral character,” Levine said. “If you were arrested in a bar fight, even if it was 15 years ago, forget it,” he said. “You’re not getting a permit.”
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Those are the laws for NY STATE. The laws in NY CITY are far more restrictive.
    LMAO! You do realize it's the state that issues conceal carry not the city?

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    What you've shown above is that you don't recognize the difference between NY State and NY City
    And you have shown you are completely clueless as the state issues, not the city.

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    Yes, the "false assumption" that there's a difference between "New York State" and "New York City"
    Because New York city does not issue CCW for the state, LMAO!
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    LMAO! You do realize it's the state that issues conceal carry not the city?
    CCW permits issued by the state are not valid in NYC



    And you have shown you are completely clueless as the state issues, not the city.
    No, you have shown you are clueless about NY City's restrictive gun laws

    Because New York city does not issue CCW for the state, LMAO!
    And your delusion says that means there's no difference between NYS and NYC
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense. In Texas that CHL costs $240, hardly a minor expense considering that a driver's license is $24. Why is it 10x as expensive to simply keep your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms than to add a driving privilege (good in all states, BTW)? Hmm...
    If you can afford to buy a 400 to 500 dollar gun, I don't think that is unreasonable. Most cost way more than that ans they are selling like hot cakes.

    This is why no one takes libertarians seriously.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    CCW permits issued by the state are not valid in NYC
    Your New York State pistol license is only valid in the counties outside the 5
    counties of New York City. Unless it is validated by New York City.


    From your own link. It's not that hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you have shown you are clueless about NY City's restrictive gun laws
    Because this only has to do with CCW. Do I need to post your initial argument again?

    You can own most guns in New York. The unconstitutional laws "recently passed" will like Chicago eventually be struck down by the SCOTUS, as they were in Chicago. You don't want to hear that though.

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    And your delusion says that means there's no difference between NYS and NYC
    State law overrides city laws just like federal laws override most state laws. Sp yes I am correct.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Sangha, you are pretty clueless on this and have crashed and burned all over it. I am done as debating with you and your dishonest strawmen are pointless.

    Good day.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Your New York State pistol license is only valid in the counties outside the 5
    counties of New York City. Unless it is validated by New York City.


    From your own link. It's not that hard.
    WHich means the same exact thing as what I said.

    It's not that hard




    Because this only has to do with CCW. Do I need to post your initial argument again?
    Go ahead. You'll see that I was referring to NY CITY, not NY STATE

    You can own most guns in New York. The unconstitutional laws "recently passed" will like Chicago eventually be struck down by the SCOTUS, as they were in Chicago. You don't want to hear that though.
    You can't even predict the past, so I forgive me if I have doubts about your ability to predict the future


    State law overrides city laws just like federal laws override most state laws. Sp yes I am correct.
    NYC's gun safety laws are not overridden by NY States
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Sangha, you are pretty clueless on this and have crashed and burned all over it. I am done as debating with you and your dishonest strawmen are pointless.

    Good day.
    I accept your surrender
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