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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I am not arguing for stoping it, I am arguing for regulating it.
    I find those who ignore our history and continue to claim that their only goal is making it harder for CRIMINALS to get guns to be either ignorant of reality or disingenuous. Because deep down most of you who have accepted the faith based belief that passing laws that only apply to law abiding people will actually impact criminals have already accepted-as a tenet of their faith-that our rights are subordinate to your solutions for "public safety"



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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I tend to believe that gun industry, the manufacturers of firearms, and the sellers of guns have a responsibility to ensure that the guns they sell or produce do not end up in the wrong hands.
    Really? Does that apply to makers/sellers of knives, chainsaws, gasoline (sold in handy, "to go" containers) and baseball bats? It is already illegal for felons or the insane to have guns. It is not laws that we lack but enforcement of them.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Well it was not the gun laws since Chicago's gun laws were just as restrictive and yet they are high on the crime list. It was aggressive policing that helped turn it around....

    "The department began analyzing victim reports daily to target resources to where crime patterns were emerging. Top brass held commanders accountable for the safety of their precincts. And officers were expected to intervene when they observed someone acting suspiciously—maybe asking the person a few questions, perhaps frisking him if legally justified. In so doing, they sent the message in violence-plagued areas that law and order was still in effect. - Heather Mac Donald: How to Return New York City to the Street Gangs - WSJ.com

    As Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC shows gun laws had almost nothing to do with it.

    A little research goes a long way.
    Bloomberg's jihad is easy to understand-its an attitude that one can date back to medieval ages when the introduction of the crossbow meant that a peasant now had the means to kill an armored knight

    Bloomberg is filthy rich and has all the power that comes from that. He has the authority of government behind him. What terrifies people like him is the thought that some "peasant" with a pistol can wipe away all the advantages he has over the low born. And deep down I think that is what motivates this gaping asshole's actions



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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Bloomberg's jihad is easy to understand-its an attitude that one can date back to medieval ages when the introduction of the crossbow meant that a peasant now had the means to kill an armored knight

    Bloomberg is filthy rich and has all the power that comes from that. He has the authority of government behind him. What terrifies people like him is the thought that some "peasant" with a pistol can wipe away all the advantages he has over the low born. And deep down I think that is what motivates this gaping asshole's actions
    Well I would not go that far... He is a gaping asshole though, lol.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Well I would not go that far... He is a gaping asshole though, lol.
    I would, I have studied these people for years. Their motivations are patent



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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    I just finished readin the article. This is what kills me. They targeted high crime area's with the stop and frisk. It worked as we know minority's are responsible for the majority of violent crime. It is a uncomfortable fact. So we know this program is working due to the drastic drop in crime for the city of New York. Now this is going on...

    Such proactive stops (or "stop-and-frisks") have averted countless crimes. But a chorus of critics, led by the New York Times, charges that the NYPD's policy is racist because the majority of those stopped are black and Hispanic. Every declared Democratic candidate for mayor in 2013 has vowed to eliminate stop-and-frisks or significantly reduce them. A federal judge overseeing a class-action lawsuit against the NYPD has already announced her conviction that the department's stop practices are unconstitutional, the prelude to putting the department under judicial control. - Heather Mac Donald: How to Return New York City to the Street Gangs - WSJ.com

    Thank you liberals for throwing common sense and what works out the window yet again for PC nonsense. It's a damn shame.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Well it was not the gun laws since Chicago's gun laws were just as restrictive and yet they are high on the crime list. It was aggressive policing that helped turn it around....

    "The department began analyzing victim reports daily to target resources to where crime patterns were emerging. Top brass held commanders accountable for the safety of their precincts. And officers were expected to intervene when they observed someone acting suspiciously—maybe asking the person a few questions, perhaps frisking him if legally justified. In so doing, they sent the message in violence-plagued areas that law and order was still in effect. - Heather Mac Donald: How to Return New York City to the Street Gangs - WSJ.com

    As Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC shows gun laws had almost nothing to do with it.

    A little research goes a long way.
    Stop and frisk worked because they targetted people they thought were carrying concealed weapons in violation of NYC's tight gun safety regulations.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Stop and frisk worked because they targetted people they thought were carrying concealed weapons in violation of NYC's tight gun safety regulations.
    Exactly. They did not have a New York city conceal and carry. That is enforcing the law. It had literally nothing to do with any other gun restriction or law, nothing. Had nothing to do with citizens legally owning guns or assault weapons. If the other gun laws were to disappear tomorrow, it would make no difference in the crime drop. Which coincidentally had not a damn thing to do with Bloomberg.

    Like I said a little research goes a long way.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Exactly. They did not have a New York city conceal and carry. That is enforcing the law.
    You mean "enforcing the laws which gun nuts think are unconstitutional, leave people defenseless, and increase crime"

    It had literally nothing to do with any other gun restriction or law, nothing.
    I see. They were arrested for violating law which restrict gun ownership, but it had nothing to do with laws which restrict gun ownership
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    You don't. You attack the root of the problem...

    Instead of getting a task force together to register and/or ban assault weapons. Why don't they put together a task force to study the root cause of gang violence and how to address it in minority neighborhoods. Or is that much to complicated?

    If we were to treat violent gangs in the same light we treat terrorist organizations, which in my mind they are, we would solve the problem rather quickly I imagine.

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