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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Gang violence is a issue.mental illness is a issue. Every issue has to be considered, including that of guns.
    Mental illness is a small issue compared to gang violence where guns are concerned. Gang violence accounts for 80%+ of gun crime. So why are they focusing so much attention on mental illness? Only one person doing a mass shooting was able to buy a gun legally because the background check missed his mental background. The others were not gotten legally. So mental illness played only a small role, it would have made no difference.

    Stop freaking wasting time on things that are mostly irrelevant to push a political agenda that promotes banning of weapons based on stupidity.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's like saying that the wrench is responsible for skinned knuckles when working on an engine....Blaming the tool is just plain silly.
    It is not the tool, but the access to said tool at issue

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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    It is not the tool, but the access to said tool at issue
    The access to drugs has not been stopped because there is a demand for it. They are illegal and have not been stopped or even slowed down. Why do you think stopping law abiding citizens from owning guns will help?
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    The access to drugs has not been stopped because there is a demand for it. They are illegal and have not been stopped or even slowed down. Why do you think stopping law abiding citizens from owning guns will help?
    I am not arguing for stoping it, I am arguing for regulating it.

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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I am not arguing for stoping it, I am arguing for regulating it.
    And I ask again, what will this accomplish? Criminals are ignoring the drug laws no matter how harsh. Please explain how regulating guns will make any difference to criminals? Since all you are doing is making legal gun owners outlaws.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    And I ask again, what will this accomplish? Criminals are ignoring the drug laws no matter how harsh. Please explain how regulating guns will make any difference to criminals? Since all you are doing is making legal gun owners outlaws.
    I tend to believe that gun industry, the manufacturers of firearms, and the sellers of guns have a responsibility to ensure that the guns they sell or produce do not end up in the wrong hands.

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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I tend to believe that gun industry, the manufacturers of firearms, and the sellers of guns have a responsibility to ensure that the guns they sell or produce do not end up in the wrong hands.
    So the makers guns etc should monitor all the distributors and all purchases. Then keep records of all those including private sales? Then hire a private police force to monitor gun trafficking from sales to other country's? That is utter nonsense.

    Then we better have the makers of knifes and baseball bats do the same.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    You don't. You attack the root of the problem...

    Instead of getting a task force together to register and/or ban assault weapons. Why don't they put together a task force to study the root cause of gang violence and how to address it in minority neighborhoods. Or is that much to complicated?
    In NYC (you know, the city that Bloomberg is actually the Mayor of) they did exactly that. They studied the problem, and came up with a solution. Now, gang-related shootings have dropped dramatically.

    Can anyone guess which policies contributed greatly to this reduction in gun crime?
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Then how does one deal with guns purchased by gangs.
    End the war on drugs and there won't be the incentives for gangs or cartels to exist and make so much drug money, or engage in so much violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I tend to believe that gun industry, the manufacturers of firearms, and the sellers of guns have a responsibility to ensure that the guns they sell or produce do not end up in the wrong hands.
    I think that is as unreasonable as holding Ford responsible for a drunk driver with a Mustang. Only the criminal is responsible, not the victim or the means.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In NYC (you know, the city that Bloomberg is actually the Mayor of) they did exactly that. They studied the problem, and came up with a solution. Now, gang-related shootings have dropped dramatically.

    Can anyone guess which policies contributed greatly to this reduction in gun crime?
    Well it was not the gun laws since Chicago's gun laws were just as restrictive and yet they are high on the crime list. It was aggressive policing that helped turn it around....

    "The department began analyzing victim reports daily to target resources to where crime patterns were emerging. Top brass held commanders accountable for the safety of their precincts. And officers were expected to intervene when they observed someone acting suspiciously—maybe asking the person a few questions, perhaps frisking him if legally justified. In so doing, they sent the message in violence-plagued areas that law and order was still in effect. - Heather Mac Donald: How to Return New York City to the Street Gangs - WSJ.com

    As Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC shows gun laws had almost nothing to do with it.

    A little research goes a long way.
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