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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've been pretty clear about my opinion. It is that combined with stop and frisk, they have contributed to a drop in gun crime.
    I was not asking about the stop and frisk but the "may issue" nature of CCW permits. I don't think making NYC a SHALL issue jurisdiction would hurt the cause.

    Yonkers? I was trying to figure the area. A guy I knew from college is perpetually running for office up there
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've been pretty clear about my opinion. It is that combined with stop and frisk, they have contributed to a drop in gun crime.
    And as I have pointed out correctly the CCW laws had nothing to do with it. We have it here in Florida as well. I wonder how many gang banger's have one? How about none. They all have criminal records that disallow them from ownership.

    Even the article I posted shows the exact same thing. You have posted? That's right nothing, because you were wrong then and you are wrong now.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, I said it was the strict gun regs in NYC combined with the stop and frisk policy. That's why you will never quote me saying that the crime drop in NYC was the result of the gun laws alone.
    That is exactly what you tried to say and it is wrong either way.

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    And you'll also never quote me saying the the CCW laws are too restrictive either. You need to make stuff up because your arguments are worthless
    Yea right wink, wink we believe you.
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I was not asking about the stop and frisk but the "may issue" nature of CCW permits. I don't think making NYC a SHALL issue jurisdiction would hurt the cause.

    Yonkers? I was trying to figure the area. A guy I knew from college is perpetually running for office up there
    name is Chuck Lesnick
    Never heard of Chuck

    And I have no problems with may issue
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    And as I have pointed out correctly the CCW laws had nothing to do with it. We have it here in Florida as well. I wonder how many gang banger's have one? How about none. They all have criminal records that disallow them from ownership.
    Gee, and just earlier to day you were claiming that it's so easy to get a CCW in NYC.

    Now, not so much

    In reality, NYC has the well-earned reputation for being one of the hardest places to get a CCW permit. TurtleDude noted that we actually have lawyers that specialize in helping people get CCW's because so many get rejected
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    That is exactly what you tried to say and it is wrong either way.
    And yet, you never back it up with any facts



    Yea right wink, wink we believe you.
    And yet again, you won't back it up with a quote of mine saying what you claimed I said
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Never heard of Chuck

    And I have no problems with may issue

    so you think wealthy connected people should get permits while minorities or the poor cannot



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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you think wealthy connected people should get permits while minorities or the poor cannot
    I have no problems with may issue
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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have no problems with may issue
    I have massive problems with leaving that to the discretion of bureaucrats.

    I believe there should be a liability clause that allows someone denied to personally sue if they were denied

    there should be no discretion IMHO



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    Re: Mass shootings toll exceeds 900 in past seven years

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Gee, and just earlier to day you were claiming that it's so easy to get a CCW in NYC.
    New York State. I admit I had it confused. Whats your excuse? hehehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In reality, NYC has the well-earned reputation for being one of the hardest places to get a CCW permit. TurtleDude noted that we actually have lawyers that specialize in helping people get CCW's because so many get rejected
    That has nothing to do with the crime drop. So it has nothing to do with it.
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