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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Actually, he didn't, but it would take too long to unravel your rightwing memes. Like ACORN, they have taken root in your brain so it's best I let them just fester there.

    Meanwhile, who voted for Clinton's impeachment while having an affair and moralizing about librals?
    Clinton Disbarred From Practice Before Supreme Court - NYTimes.com

    And he ADMITTED to lying under oath.

    So you can spew your stupid, unoriginal little quotes all night...but you're wrong.
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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Coward? You mean that it takes bravery to send other people's children to die in war?

    Rwanda. Shameful, of course. In retrospect a terrible decision. Yes, probably. There is genocide in progress all the time. The earth has some pretty ****ed up countries, evil religions, brutal dictators. As world police, we make mistakes. That doesn't invalidate the good.

    I think it's normal to gravitate toward some and be repelle by others. My opinion of Clinton would score "mostly favorable" and yours might score "mostly unfavorable". It's impossible to say which one is correct. I also would put Reagan (first term) and Elder Bush on my good list. Were they perfect? No. Did I respect them? Yes. It's all very subjective.

    Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Clinton was a pathetic coward who is (imo) an accessory to genocide.

    'An independent panel commissioned by the Organization of African Unity charged this weekend that the United States, France and Belgium, as well as the Roman Catholic and Anglican churches, actively prevented peacekeepers from moving in to stop the mass killing of as many as 800,000 Rwandans in 1994. It concluded that the three governments should provide "a significant level of reparations" to the Central African country.

    The 318-page report challenged President Clintonís claim that the United Statesís failure to act in Rwanda was due to ignorance of the extent of the atrocities unfolding there. And it accused Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who represented the United States in the U.N. Security Council at the time, of using "stalling tactics" to prevent a military rescue mission.'


    The Rwanda Genocide: How Does Madeleine Albright Live with Herself?


    Imo, Bill Clinton is a smart, charming, shrewd coward.

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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post

    2.59 sex scandals per Republican....

    Just to review, though the chart hasn't kept up....

    Dems vs Reps - sex-scandal-flow-chart.jpg

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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Coward? You mean that it takes bravery to send other people's children to die in war?

    Rwanda. Shameful, of course. In retrospect a terrible decision. Yes, probably. There is genocide in progress all the time. The earth has some pretty ****ed up countries, evil religions, brutal dictators. As world police, we make mistakes. That doesn't invalidate the good.

    I think it's normal to gravitate toward some and be repelle by others. My opinion of Clinton would score "mostly favorable" and yours might score "mostly unfavorable". It's impossible to say which one is correct. I also would put Reagan (first term) and Elder Bush on my good list. Were they perfect? No. Did I respect them? Yes. It's all very subjective.

    Respect.
    So a guy whose administration that an independent UN report states knew about a genocide (that killed 800,000 people) and not only did nothing to stop it - but also got the UN to pull out those troops that were there?

    And you give a man like that a 'mostly favorable rating'?


    Additionally:

    'The OAU, consisting mostly of African leaders and led by Stephen Lewis, a Canadian, attempts to rebuke the United States by asserting that the reason for not sending troops to Rwanda was that “nothing was at stake for the United States in Rwanda. There were no interests to guard. … I don’t know how Madeleine Albright lives with this,” said Lewis, trying to shift even more responsibility onto the United States.

    Albright, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., defended herself.

    “I screamed about the instructions I got on this,” Albright told ABC-TV’s Cokie Roberts. “I felt that they were wrong, and I made that point, but I was an ambassador under instructions.”'



    Read more at U.N. seeks reparations for Rwandan genocide

    So even Albright admitted that she thought her instructions were so wrong that she literally screamed against them.

    And you still would give such a man a 'most favorable' rating as POTUS?

    No offense, but I find that repulsive.

    Let me ask you this - how many people would have had to have died in Rwanda before you would noticeably lessen your opinion of that dickhead Clinton?

    1 million? 2? 5? Or even if the entire country hacked themselves to death and Clinton knew about it and did absolutely nothing to stop it - would even that lose him your 'most favorable rating'?

    Or if Rwandans killing off each other completely is not enough?

    How many times would he have to do the exact same thing (knowingly turn his back on massive genocide) for your rating of him to drop?
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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    This thread is the holy grail of "WHO THE **** CARES"

    Manufactured moral outrage over a man who participated in the same type of manufactured moral outrage 15 years ago. Have I pretty much nailed the gist of it?
    You're right. After all, no conservatives ever portray any manufactured outrage toward Bill Clinton, who was president 20 years ago.

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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    I'm going to say "morally secure" in order to counteract the number of times I have read "morally bankrupt" within the first several responses.
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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    I thought Clinton made a number of errors and I think that every President has done things that were abominable. I always hope and I am always disappointed.

    So, I'm always forced to decide if my rating is favorable or unfavorable. I must weigh the good against the bad, I must weigh the efforts and their results. My rating is favorable and yours is unfavorable. It's amazing that 2 rational beings, faced with identical information, can draw such opposite conclusions. The mysteries of life.

    I don't have a desired outcome preference. Whomever is President, I pray they will be wise in their decisions because so many are affected. I'm not morally certain that our Presidents are subject to hidden influences, but you know, anything is possible.


    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So a guy whose administration that an independent UN report states knew about a genocide (that killed 800,000 people) and not only did nothing to stop it - but also got the UN to pull out those troops that were there?

    And you give a man like that a 'mostly favorable rating'?


    Additionally:

    'The OAU, consisting mostly of African leaders and led by Stephen Lewis, a Canadian, attempts to rebuke the United States by asserting that the reason for not sending troops to Rwanda was that “nothing was at stake for the United States in Rwanda. There were no interests to guard. … I don’t know how Madeleine Albright lives with this,” said Lewis, trying to shift even more responsibility onto the United States.

    Albright, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N., defended herself.

    “I screamed about the instructions I got on this,” Albright told ABC-TV’s Cokie Roberts. “I felt that they were wrong, and I made that point, but I was an ambassador under instructions.”'



    Read more at U.N. seeks reparations for Rwandan genocide

    So even Albright admitted that she thought her instructions were so wrong that she literally screamed against them.

    And you still would give such a man a 'most favorable' rating as POTUS?

    No offense, but I find that repulsive.

    Let me ask you this - how many people would have had to have died in Rwanda before you would noticeably lessen your opinion of that dickhead Clinton?

    1 million? 2? 5? Or even if the entire country hacked themselves to death and Clinton knew about it and did absolutely nothing to stop it - would even that lose him your 'most favorable rating'?

    Or if Rwandans killing off each other completely is not enough?

    How many times would he have to do the exact same thing (knowingly turn his back on massive genocide) for your rating of him to drop?

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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    think it would be better to state that many politicians are morally bankrupt. Or that many humans are.

    Are you trying to say only conservatives are morally bankrupt. If you are, you will fail.
    But when it comes to hypocrits you have to admit Conservatives are the kings.

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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    Bill Clinton was on trial for sexual harassment when he lied about current ongoing extramarital relationships. He was accused by a campaign staffer of having a trooper bring her to his room ostensibly to discuss campaign issues whereupon he was sitting on a couch with his sweatpants around his ankles and a towel over his waist while jerking himself off. When she was brought into the room the very classy democrat presidential candidate stood up, let his towel drop to the floor, and asked her to 'kiss it'. She felt that was sexual harassment and filed a lawsuit. Clinton lied under oath, committing perjury not about having an affair but about sexually harassing an employee. While determining patterns for evidence against him there were also instances involving at least one accused rape and several instances of sexual assault. The pattern of affairs dating back to his earliest days of marriage were used as evidence against him to support the perjury charges. Bill Clinton...the guy that would **** every chubby intern with low self esteem that moved, but wouldn't take one for the team and actually have sex with his wife. Now...who knows. Maybe its an open marriage. Maybe Hillary is a dyke or just a plain ol bitch of the highest order. Or maybe Hillary is a wonderful person that married a scumbag that cant keep his dick in his pants. None of that is relevant to the charge of sexual harassment and perjury committed while on trial for sexual harassment, nor is it an excuse for sexual assault and rape.

    Unless PD was on trial for sexual harassment, the two are in no way equal, much as mindless Clinton supporters would like them to be.

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    re: Former Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico acknowledges having son outside marriage 3...

    I have said it before here and it is true again that men are pigs. Like dogs who hump on the end of a sofa.


    I think congress was overdue for another sexual pig of the month club honoree. He was 50 yrs old and she was 24 yrs old. One should not be so naive to believe that was his first rodeo either.

    Congress has no business at all talking about anyone's sexually activity with the record they got.

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