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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Your posts created a false reality used to justify your opinion. But what's a little honesty in posting, right?
    I don't feel like going back to find your original thread on this, so I will just jump in here all Super Tangent Man like and theorize that the only reason the parents withdrew the car was to try to force her to have the abortion so that and the bills are their punishment if you will for their wrong deeds against the daughter. I assume dad gets stuck with the other half of the bills. It may be an indirect way for the Court to force them to put/keep her on their insurance.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What if it was old school days - the parents said she could have the baby, but she'd have to give it up for abortion?

    Babies, as we all know, are massively expensive. Maybe the parents don't have the finances to pay for another baby.
    Even if the boy's parents agree to pay for half of everything.....

    What are the rights of the "grandparents" here?

    Since they will foot a good deal of the finances for a child they did not want or agree to have?

    Are they SOL simply because their child did something stupid?
    These are all things to be considered. The bottom line is you should make sure your sexually -active teenager is using birth control and not counting on abstinence-only sex education for family planning purposes. The parents are responsible for that much.
    Last edited by 66gardeners; 02-19-13 at 05:50 PM.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    1. Then why did you actually try to list people that argued that she shouldn't be able to make her own choice? (An answer that failed to actually answer the question btw)

    2. Then list some people that are appalled at her choice. Who in this thread has criticized her for her choice? Who has said she's a terrible person? Who in the media or in the pro-choice crowd has said she is making a terrible choice?

    Back up your claim or take it back. This isn't a conservative blog, if you tell lies here you will be called out on it, and I am calling you out. Either retract it or provide a basis for your claims.
    Contrary to what you may feel, I don't report to you and as I've said previously, based on the comments posted on this thread, I stand by my original comment - if you don't like it, too bad, that is your choice, however. The very fact that so many here who claim to be pro-choice are fixated on the court ordering the child retain her access to the car she had before the pregancy is at the very least curious, wouldn't you agree? If you were all so much in favor of her choice, wouldn't you want her to have all the assistance and benefit she needs or that can be made available to her by her parents. All this nonsense about personal property and insurance and who pays the medical bills is all a smokescreen to justify the parents abandoning their child for making the wrong decision, in their view.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The parents shouldn't be made to allow use of the car OR be forced to cover half of the medical expenses.
    I sure don't understand the court getting involved in her use of the car. That seems wrong to me. I'm actually surprised the parents aren't liable for 100% of her hospital bill. Parents are always responsible for their kids' medical bills until they're 18, unless they've been emancipated.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    These are all things to be considered. The bottom line is you should make sure your sexually -active teenager is using birth control and not counting on abstinence-only sex education for family planning purposes. The parents are responsible for that much.
    You mean parents should physically hold down teenage daughters and force birth control pills down her throat?

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Contrary to what you may feel, I don't report to you and as I've said previously, based on the comments posted on this thread, I stand by my original comment - if you don't like it, too bad, that is your choice, however. The very fact that so many here who claim to be pro-choice are fixated on the court ordering the child retain her access to the car she had before the pregancy is at the very least curious, wouldn't you agree? If you were all so much in favor of her choice, wouldn't you want her to have all the assistance and benefit she needs or that can be made available to her by her parents. All this nonsense about personal property and insurance and who pays the medical bills is all a smokescreen to justify the parents abandoning their child for making the wrong decision, in their view.
    If you were truly "standing by" your original comment, you would support it.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    You sound just like every other pro-choice person I've heard speak on this issue. The girl should be able to choose what happens. I don't know where CanadaJohn got his hair brain reasoning behind his assertion that "the pro-choice crowd is appalled by her choice" or that we think she shouldn't be able to choose.

    I don't know where he gets his reasoning either, but I refuse to engage because of the obvious futility of it all.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you were truly "standing by" your original comment, you would support it.
    Yawn.....

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I think this is the wrong result.

    A car is not her right. Did she pay for her car? No, she didn't. She has no right to it. I swear, the judge must have been either takin' a piss at the whole situation or was completely drunk.

    Either way, this is a wrong ruling. It may be legal, I don't know the laws of Texas in this regard, but it sure as hell isn't a smart decision or a logical one.

    But the law is the law.
    The medical insurance, the car and phone, the parents withdrew those to coerce the kid into an abortion. There are a lot of things parents can legally coerce their children to do by withholding non-essentials, but this isn't one of them. That's why the judge ordered them to continue with what she had become accustomed to.

    Notice however, this judgement only applies until she moves out, which the kids intend to do.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You mean parents should physically hold down teenage daughters and force birth control pills down her throat?

    No. They should make her hold an asprin between her knees.
    Last edited by 66gardeners; 02-19-13 at 06:21 PM.

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