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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It's just logical. If she wrecks the car, she may be hurt. If she totals it, she may end up dying. The car doesn't get wrecked by miracle, it happens because of collision. Impact. Boom boom stuff.

    Anyway. If the car goes to car heaven, I assume the parents get the insurance money for it... if they have insurance and if the girl isn't to blame for wrecking it. And then... who knows. Its really too much to think about on little info. The bottom line is, she doesn't own the car.

    But we are getting offtopic. From baby in her belly to wrecking cars.
    I can't even address the multitude of blatantly incorrect "facts" in this post.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A car is not a luxury item when used by a pregnant person who can't hike to a distant school.
    You're creating unconfirmed scenarios to justify your opinion, you know.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, that's true, but you said it was "pro-choice crowd" that was appalled by her choice. Two people do not make a crowd.
    Based on the comments on this thread, I stand by my first statement - the fact so many "progressives" feel her parents should be able to punish her for her choice by being petty and withholding access to a car she had before tells me all I need to know - as I said previously, if she had decided to abort and the parents didn't want her to and took away the car, the "progressives" would be screaming bloody murder.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    1. You are not legally obligated to provide your child with a car to get to and from school.
    2. If it's too far to walk she can likely take the bus, get a ride w/friends (or the baby daddy), etc.

    As for your other statement. "Half of the hospital bill when she gives birth" means the totality of the bill, split in two. The MAJORITY of that bill will be costs associated with the baby's care post-birth, NOT the mother's....hence my statement.
    1) This decision proves that you are wrong about that.

    2) Supposition. Try using facts instead.

    Maybe the hald the parents are paying is the half attributable to the mothers care, and not the babys. And I don't know why you claim that the majority of the costs are associated with the babys care. It's the mother who will require meds, anesthetics, etc. If healthy, the care for the baby is minimal.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    What if it was old school days - the parents said she could have the baby, but she'd have to give it up for abortion?

    Babies, as we all know, are massively expensive. Maybe the parents don't have the finances to pay for another baby.
    Even if the boy's parents agree to pay for half of everything.....

    What are the rights of the "grandparents" here?

    Since they will foot a good deal of the finances for a child they did not want or agree to have?

    Are they SOL simply because their child did something stupid?

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    You're creating unconfirmed scenarios to justify your opinion, you know.
    Says the poster who worries about future car accidents that haven't yet happened
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's easy - her two parents.
    The parents are denying that they ever tried to coerce the girl into having an abortion. They claim they were punishing her for her actions that got her pregnany.

    So, once again, who is out there arguing that parents should be able to force their children to get abortions? Even the parents, as you claim, aren't out there arguing they should be able to, they are arguing that they never even did that.

    Texas parents agree not to pressure teen to have abortion - CNN.com
    The parents have denied the allegations in the lawsuit and called the case baseless. Their attorney did not respond to requests from CNN for comment.
    You are making stuff up. Now please come up with a real instance of this happening.
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I hardly think the question is irrational. If they're required to provide her with a luxury item, what happens if she renders that item unusable during the course of the injunction? She's 16. Statistically it's very probable she'll wreck the car.
    Nonsense - the court DID NOT rule that the parents had to go out and get her a car to use - the court DID rule that the parents couldn't take away the car as punishment for the child exercising her constitutional right to free choice.

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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Based on the comments on this thread, I stand by my first statement - the fact so many "progressives" feel her parents should be able to punish her for her choice by being petty and withholding access to a car she had before tells me all I need to know - as I said previously, if she had decided to abort and the parents didn't want her to and took away the car, the "progressives" would be screaming bloody murder.
    Actually, the people saying that aren't progressive.

    The progressives in this thread are agreeing with the decision
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    Re: Pregnant Teen Wins Abortion Battle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    1) This decision proves that you are wrong about that.

    2) Supposition. Try using facts instead.

    Maybe the hald the parents are paying is the half attributable to the mothers care, and not the babys. And I don't know why you claim that the majority of the costs are associated with the babys care. It's the mother who will require meds, anesthetics, etc. If healthy, the care for the baby is minimal.
    When you want to play by your own rules (re: #2) you can let me know.
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